President Obama bypasses Congress with public economic pitch

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  • deseret pete robertson, Wy
    Feb. 19, 2013 6:53 a.m.

    He has no clue how to fix the economy or anything else --- He should go to Chicago and do some community organizing.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 18, 2013 5:48 p.m.


    You may not be on the envy train but you certainly are on the blame train. I to would like to see the President try harder to lead congress through this mess. However with that being said I am not sure it is possible since the republicans by Mitch McConnells own words spent the first four years trying to make him a one term president. Pretty hard to lead people who's goal is to defeat you in the next election not do the work of the American people.

    I know you don't like to talk about the past when it doesn't serve your point of view, but Mr. Obama had a deal with Mr Boehner in the summer of 2011 that Mr. Boehner walked away from. Why did Mr. Boehner walk away? The tea party faction went crazy. Since then he has been adamant about not negotiating again with the President because it is not good for his position as Speaker of the House.

    The only things that the republicans stand for right now is to oppose the President. That strategy is not helping the republicans and more importantly it is not helping the country.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Feb. 18, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    worf said: "If Rush, Sean, and Glenn were around during the 1930's, the world possibly would have been spared alot of grief."

    or, or we would be worse off when Glen donned his right wing conservative nazi attire, Joined Old man Bush and funneled money to the Nazis for a better world.

    Sean and Rush could have joined In 1933, the group of wealthy businessmen including the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush who tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States.

    I have to disagree worf, hate is hate is well hate.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 17, 2013 9:03 p.m.

    Fred44---Obama is the current president, and the past is gone. It's Obama in the drivers seat, and we need him to steer us out the mess.

    If Rush, Sean, and Glenn were around during the 1930's, the world possibly would have been spared alot of grief. I'm not on the envy train. If these guys can make money--more power to them. So did Gore, Pelosi, Reid, and Kerry.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Feb. 17, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    Re: Fred44

    You forgot to include the 4th group, the Radical Left, of which Obama, Reid, and Pelosi are part of. If you think that the likes of Lawrence O'Donnell, Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews ect are mainstream Democrats/liberals, then you have to include Rush, Sean, Glen, ect as mainstream Republican/conservative. I have been a Republican/Conservative all my life and from my point of view it has been the Democrat Party that has been moving to the left. My values have stayed stable the whole time as I've watched the Democrats run away from the center.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Feb. 17, 2013 5:18 p.m.

    The headline snags the usual suspects...

    "...President Obama bypasses...".

    Don't bother to read the piece...

    Just go for the headline and then come the usual talking points.

    However, even a casual reading yields...

    "...This president, LIKE RECENT ONES BEFORE HIM, has gone to the public before in hopes of persuading lawmakers...".

    So the formula is... snag the usual suspects, fire them up with the usual key words, then let them go for it...


  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 17, 2013 5:00 p.m.


    Sorry to tell you, but I have had it all along. You commend me for saying both sides got us into this mess then you go on a tirade about the President. I am hoping you will GET IT soon.

    Joe Blow is correct. There are three groups in the country right now, the radical right, moderates and democrats. Two of the three admit that our problems are not caused solely by one party. The radical right blasts the democrats for everything they have done wrong, and blames most of what the republicans have done wrong on the democrats as well.

    I would like to see a strong republican party that had a place for moderates. It is sad that Rush, Sean and Glen are making millions of dollars a year each by spewing over the top rhetoric and doing harm to the country that they claim to have such a love for. Blaming the President may make people feel better but it does not lead to a solution.

    Remember what your Mom taught you, when you point a finger at someone else, there are three fingers pointing back at you.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Feb. 17, 2013 4:41 p.m.

    I will bet that if the economy is still bad at the end of Obamas 2nd term, Obama and his supporters will still blame the economy he inherited from Bush. However, if it does turn around in the next 4 years, the second it does, it will be hailed by those same people as Obamas doing. Must be nice living in their fairy tale world.

    Now for the real world. When Bush came into office in 2001, he inherited an economy that was already heading down. Then he had a further setback after the 911 attacks. Most of the Bush years were pretty good, and the big downturn did not happen until Reid and Pelosi came on in 2007. That and the Fanny Mae Freddy Mac housing fiasco. I don't need to remind all of you that Bush tried to get congress to do something about those programs before the fall, but the Democrats would have none of it. So at the very least, when you complain about the economy Obama inherited, call it for what it is. The Bush,Reid,Pelosi economy.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 17, 2013 2:44 p.m.

    Fred44---now you get it! " The economy is a disaster and it is not because of the republicans or the democrats, both have contributed in roughly equal amounts".

    Now for Obama! Quit blaming, and start fixing. Congress hasn't been on vacation for four years, and a great leader can work around differences to improving the country. That's what leaders do! Lead the congress to solutions. Time to roll up the sleeves, and unite for the betterment of the people.

    Fix the problems, and don't be a part of it.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 17, 2013 12:52 p.m.


    You have hit on what I believe is a general truth between the Right and the Left.

    Those who are not on the right (moderates and liberal) seem to think that our politicians, both Republican and Democratic, have made bad choices and are responsible for our countries woes.

    Those on the right seem to think it is all caused by Democrats.

    A look at history will show the truth, and it is easy to find. And it points a finger at both parties.

    Why is that so hard to acknowledge? One must understand the problem before any attempts at a fix.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 17, 2013 11:23 a.m.


    Excuses? So the fact that constitutionally the congress is in charge of the budget is an excuse? Interesting concept. Now if he were the King as so many of you on the far right call him then I could agree with you. But the constitution is not an excuse it is the law of the land.

    Interesting that Newt Gingrich and republicans want to take credit for the economy of the 90's when Bill Clinton was the President, but you want to blame President Obama for all the problems today. How does that work?

    Its time to take the blinders off and realize that the disaster we have now is caused by BOTH parties working against each other trying to gain a political advantage. The economy is a disaster and it is not because of the republicans or the democrats, both have contributed in roughly equal amounts.

    If I had my way I would throw them all out, because not one elected official in Washington is doing their job. If they were we wouldn't have this problem. Time for ALL elected officials to quit blaming and start working for the American people.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 17, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    Whenever Obama uses the word "investment", it's time to check your bank account.

    Fred44--you know a president is weak, when excuses are constantly made. If it's not congress, then it's George Bush.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 17, 2013 9:53 a.m.


    The President makes a PROPOSAL, congress passes a BUDGET. The President tries to get support for his ideas, and congress takes another week of vacation. Who is at fault here? Whi is driving the economy off the cliff? Who is doing nothing? Who controls the budget?

    Low information voters need to wake up and quit buying talk radio rhetoric.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 17, 2013 9:31 a.m.

    None of Obama's proposals will add a dime to the debt, and he did reduce the deficit by 2.5 trillion in the passed few years.

    At least, that's what he said in his state of the unions speech.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Feb. 17, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    @ Kings Court. In other words, you can criticize elected officials but the rest of us can't criticize Obama?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Feb. 17, 2013 6:53 a.m.

    "You really can fool all of the people some of the time, and Obama has proven that decisively"

    Absolutely. He has a good chunk of the GOP believing he is a socialist, even as the Stock market has more than doubled since he took office.

    Private industry and corporations are making record profits. Obama will surely go down in history as the worst socialist ever.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Feb. 16, 2013 11:55 p.m.

    @life and dn
    So let's see if I can follow your reasoning. Obama presents his economic plan to his bosses (the American people) while congress members hold up in their mac mansions waiting to returning to their old boys club on the hill but Obama is the one acting like a king?

  • Kings Court Alpine, UT
    Feb. 16, 2013 5:26 p.m.

    To be expected, what the article isn't telling you is that Congress is on recess for the week following the state of the union address. It was scheduled last fall. The recess is called "Constituent Work Week." I know that many people don't like Obama, but let's be honest here. It is hard to work with a Congress that is not even in session and whose members are home supposedly working with their constituents. At least Obama is actually flying around the country talking with Americans. I haven't seen any public events scheduled by Chaffetz, Bishop, Matheson, etc during their "constituent work week."

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Feb. 16, 2013 3:25 p.m.

    Obama bypasses everything but his self loving narcissism, and his constant campaigning to give away more "free stuff" while totally ignoring the very real problem that we are broke, deeply in debt, with all of our major entitlement programs about to go bankrupt.

    Instead of doing a single thing to curtail spending in any of the bloated or non-essential areas, Obama is slashing defense spending, and demonizing any Republicans who attempt to propose any cut at all.

    You really can fool all of the people some of the time, and Obama has proven that decisively.

    Of course, it helps when the sycophant stenographers from outfits like the Associated Press crank out worshipful propaganda stories like this one to marvel at Obama's caring and leadership while never asking tough questions or for specifics about his actual plans. Worse, they do not "fact check" and refute his endless untruths about how much he has spent, borrowed or cut.

    History will record that Obama destroyed our nation by his unbridled spending.

    If he really cared, he would not doom our future generations to servitude to the Chinese to repay all of his borrowing!

  • LifeLibertyHappiness Draper, UT
    Feb. 16, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    Unfortunately President Obama would rather be King Obama and not have to deal with elected officials at all. His vision for America is a European style socialist state where it will become very difficult for people to move from poverty to wealth and opportunity. His policies will continue to remove the incentive to work which will stifle innovation. Innovation is often born of economic necessity and when the need to work is lessened, innovation will diminish. He will continue to tear down those who have become successful because "they didn't do that."