Budget cut woes leave military, families uncertain

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  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 11, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    worf you ask why we are giving money to Egypt and I don't think it has anything to do with a golf course in Egypt being named George Bush golf course, and two streets named after the Bushes.

    When this country pays $.29 cents of every tax dollar to maintain our military and education gets $.02 of every dollar there is a problem.

    The military could pull the plug on 50% of the overseas bases we maintain on our dime and meet the budget cuts. That is without continuing to purchase $175 toilet seats (still happening at Hill). The military has notoriously spent without conscience and without regard to common sense.

    USA spends 45% of all military dollars in the world. China has carrier and missile superiority not because they spent on military but because they develop engineers and promote innovation at an educational level. this country does too but they do it at a fraction they spend on military.

    Military needs to be cut but like most departments the useful areas will probably be hit the hardest.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 9, 2013 12:08 a.m.

    joseywales--In his passed two campaigns, Obama said he would simplify the tax code.

    Hmm? I wonder if anyone would blame George Bush for that not happening?

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 11:22 p.m.

    Another idea. Get rid of the IRS. At least as it stands today. Simplify the tax code. National sales tax, flat tax, whatever is better. But there are 100,000 useless jobs. They will easily be hired by businesses that need accounting skilled people.

  • joseywales Park City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 11:15 p.m.

    Now is not the time to cut the military. China is ramping up their military. They have "carrier killers" surface to water missiles that are just plain nasty. North Korea is getting crazier and crazier by the day. The Middle East is a ticking time bomb, but MR. Peace apologized to the world, so why worry right? Wrong! Gut entitlement programs that give nothing back. Offer those on welfare the opportunity to serve their country in exchange for the money they receive (I can only imagine how low the percentage would be) get rid of Obamacare, and cut foreign aid. When JFK said "if we that have cannot help those who have not, then we cannot help ourselves" he was talking about Americans right?

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    The U.S.military is the most important department in all of government. Cut any other department 1st before gutting the military. Get rid of some departments all together like energy, and education, which are nothing but make work administrative jobs that we would not miss if they disappeared tomorrow. However since most of us are being asked to pay upwards of 5 percent more in taxes, what should happen is every government program be cut by 5 per cent including defense. That would get rid of a lot of the wasteful fat and help balance the budget and reduce the need for debt.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 3:18 p.m.

    never fear - our competent commander and thief (I mean chief) has it all under control. The man just understands the world after all he did get the Nobel Peace Prize and look at how he handled Benghazi and took care of those service members! Don't worry military families if you do lose your job you can join the food stamp army which is GIGANTIC now-a-days. Food stamps and welfare checks are the new wave in America today so you would be part of the wealth redistribution revolution! Yes sir prosperity has never been better in this Obama-nation.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 8, 2013 2:38 p.m.


    Who'se in charge, and resonsible for our country? Who said taxes wouldn't go up a single dime, or the deficit cut in half?

    Excuses are a sign of weakness. Great leaders don't make excuses/blame, and are willing to set an example. A leader--leads!

    Sorry, but Obama's not cutting it.

    Why are we giving WMDs, and funds to Egypt while people are losing jobs here? This is pathetic.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    Let's have a budget plan....' - worf

    'Republicans BAIL on budget talks, blame Democrats' - By David Espo - AP - Published by DSNews - 06/23/11

    WASHINGTON — Republicans pulled out of debt-reduction talks led by Vice President Joe Biden with a flourish on Thursday, blaming Democrats for...'

    Can't get a budget...

    from people who just want to make things worse.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    Will someone please define the word "unsustainable", to Obama.

    Let's have a budget plan, so America can see where our tax money is being spent.

    Why are we giving WMDs, and funds to Egypt while people are losing jobs here?

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    We cannot continue our unsustainable spending.

    However, it is a foolhardy mistake to cut defense while we are still wasting billions on foreign aid, subsidizine "big Bird" giving welfare to illegals, and forcing the Navy to buy "green fuel" at outrageous prices. to mention just a few.

    Unprecedented cuts are needed, like to cut 50% of the federal civilian work force.

    If we make the tough choices and do the cuts that are needed, I will take the risk of the defense cuts too. But, if we are not cutting everything BUT defense first, we are dooming our country to collapse anyway.

    At least give the DOD authority to allocate their budget cuts as they see fit, not arbitrary cuts by percentage of line items.

    But, Obama and the Democrat Senate will not cut ANYTHING, except defense. Why do they want our country to collapse from forces without, or within?

  • Dont Tread Iron County, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 11:12 a.m.

    We can provide F16s to the Muslim Brotherhood, but we can't provide basic needs to our own Sailors. We can provide a free welfare check for two years with no work requirement, but we can't replace the outdated and 50 year old M16 family of weapon systems. We can blow billions on Solyndra but we can't manufacture enough F35s to update our aging fighter jet fleet.
    It frustrates me that every time politicians supposedly "get serious" about spending they take money away from the programs that are actually fulfilling the responsibilities of government, such as providing for the common defense, and yet leave intact all the extra programs that fulfill extraconstitutional services.
    This is why the financial crisis in America will never be solved until a balanced budget amendment is put in place which will force politicians to prioritize every year and not just when the electorate clamors for a few saved bucks.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 11:03 a.m.

    Cut the debt....

    don't cut the military.

    Choose one, but don't argue both...

    at the same time.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 9:27 a.m.

    We will ALL need to be ready to tighten our belts. Things are going to become rough for every American if Congress ever finds the gumption to act.

    Now it will be very interesting to see how loudly those who have been screaming for budget cuts will yowl when their own interests are threatened.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Feb. 8, 2013 8:51 a.m.

    Hind sight is 20 29. War is the only thing that NATO has imported to the US all the other jobs we had have been exported

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 8, 2013 8:28 a.m.

    Some questions:

    * wouldn't it be better, spending money on something which provides jobs, then on welfare which doesn't?

    * take some of the billions we give away to other countries, and use it for our defense, and postal system?

    * doesn't employed people provide taxes?

    * will our commander pay a little more?