Class sizes, salaries concern teachers

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  • Coach P Provo, UT
    Feb. 6, 2013 9:11 a.m.

    There is a general easy rule of thumb.

    For secondary schools, check out the reported class size of your school. Then for any traditional type of class (non-AP, non-Special Ed, non-vocational) I would add at least 10 students to that count and in some cases 15-20. That is what your child is likely facing. Most secondary U.S. History classes in this state are at the minimum 35-40 students with a good share over 40. Many secondary teachers in traditional track classes are teaching over 200 students, some close to 250. My personal record was over 280 for most of the year but 220 (for six classes) is pretty typical for me and many of my colleagues are in a similar situation.

    In elementary, I would add about 10-15 to what was reported. Most elementary grades 3-6 probably you are looking best case in high 20's but more typical would be low to mid 30's. K-2 is lower but the legislature has funded for that (how about that!)...

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:44 p.m.

    Let's get this right! The pay is nothing to brag about.

    Teachers leave the profession because the road to educating students are filled with speed bumps from being micro-managed. Too many demands, and paper work.

  • Utah Teacher Orem, UT
    Feb. 5, 2013 10:29 p.m.

    When they state the statistics of 25 per class you can believe it is about 32-34. They like to count principals, secretaries, and counselors as teachers. I know at my school they claim to have a class size of 23. My smallest class is 31 and my biggest is 33. I know of only one regular ed teacher that has a class less than 28. Oh wait I forgot they also include special ed classes where they might only have 7 or 8 kids. What they need to say is if you have a regular kid who isn't in any specialty classes, your kid will most likely be in a class of ___. That number would surprise most people.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Feb. 4, 2013 11:11 p.m.

    Tell those Idaho teachers to quit whining, they could be teaching in Utah where class sizes over 40 are the norm in our secondary schools...