Momentum building toward meaningful immigration reform

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  • firefly Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2013 3:56 p.m.

    Thanks, Obama!

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Jan. 31, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    We have had seven amnesties
    •The one in 1986 for 2.7 million aliens, the amnesty to end all amnesties.
    •section 245(i) rolling amnesty of 400,000 in 1994
    •section 245(i) extension in 1997
    •Central American Relief Act that gave one million Central Americans amnesty 1997
    •Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act a amnesty for Haitians 125,000 in1998
    •Late amnesty an amnesty for 400,000 that claimed they should of been included in the 1986 act. California courts were back up for years by the claims, finally we gave up. 2000
    •Life act amnesty a continuation in 2000 of the 245(i) act 900,000 (approx)

    Did they solve the problem?

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 7:28 p.m.

    One loves one neighbor by obeying the laws of the land. The American dream is about Americans and legal immigrants.

    The "hard workers" are hurting our labor and citizens.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 6:48 p.m.

    One loves his neighbor by not stealing, lying or coveting what is not his. There are plenty of avenues for legal immigration. 4.3 million visas and green cards last year.

  • raybies Layton, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 3:20 p.m.

    We need the hard-working families that come here willing to risk life and limb and even arrest to care for their families and make a better life. It's time we stopped penalizing these people who are trying to live the American dream, and provide a way to help them come out of the shadows.

    If there are those that want to stay in the shadows afterwards, then we will know their intent is not good, but right now the really nefarious elements of these populations have too many good people behind which to hide. It's time to believe in America again... believe that we are stronger BECAUSE of our diversity, rather than despising it.

    That's how one loves one's neighbor.

  • Ronald Mortensen Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 30, 2013 12:49 p.m.

    Arizona Senators McCain and Flake have both said that only those illegal aliens who have not committed any crimes, with the exception of illegally entering the United States, will be eligible for legal status under comprehensive immigration reform.

    That would exclude the estimated 75% of illegal aliens who use fraudulently obtained Social Security numbers for employment and other purposes since that is a federal felony (Social Security fraud). It would also exclude those who have perjured themselves on I-9 forms, used forged Green Cards and committed identity theft by using Social Security numbers that belong to American citizens, including 50,000 Utah kids, since these are all felonies.

    Certainly the Desert News will agree with the Senators when they say that no one committing felonies should be granted amnesty from the crimes they have committed and that that illegal aliens who have committed these felonies should not be given legal status or a path to citizenship.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Jan. 30, 2013 12:51 a.m.

    Yes, let's reward the illegal alien and the business owner who hires him. Giving them residency and business a surplus labor market will teach them to never do it again.

  • WestGranger West Valley City, Utah
    Jan. 29, 2013 8:08 p.m.

    A path to citizenship means more voters for democrats.The sooner the highly democratic Hispanic demographic can vote the better as far as the D.N.C. is concerned. If Latinos had access to more information, instead of relying on the heavily liberally-slanted Spanish-speaking media, they would vote republican.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 6:44 p.m.

    We have an illegal immigration problem because the government and big business don't want to enforce U.S. immigration laws. Although I'm against any form of amnesty, I do see one positive aspect of an amnesty. If amnesty passes, the majority of these new citizens will vote Democrat and my fellow Republicans who have supported illegal immigration for cheap labor will have their taxes raised. They will deserve it. There is no such thing as cheap labor. Just cheap employers!

  • Liberal Today Murray, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 1:59 p.m.

    I always feel like hitting the deck in preparation when someone suggests that doing something, anything, is better than doing nothing.

    It is far more important to do the right thing, than that we just do something. There is still plenty of room to make things worse.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 12:49 p.m.

    "Fortunately, such an approach seems to be underway. On Monday, key Republicans and Democrats in the Senate unveiled a plan that focuses on a few basic ideas." ~ article


    And to think -- Utah's own Senator Mike Lee WAS involved with that, and had a voice, and COULD have made some sort of impact...
    but NO...
    Mike Lee packed up his marles and went home - so we get what we get because Mike Lee acted like a Tea-Party cry baby and went home.

    Utah had a chance to be a leader, and have some say-so - but Mike Lee threw it all away.

  • Bill Tibbitts Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 9:39 a.m.

    Thank you for printing this thoughtful editorial about an important topic. The only real, politically feasible, alternative to passing a comprehensive bill like this one is to do nothing-- which has not been working very well.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Jan. 29, 2013 9:22 a.m.

    "The "new" bill offers unethical (and illegal)employers all kinds of ways to be able to put illegal employeees in front of legal American citizens."

    Pretty sure they are already doing that. I would propose "significant" penalties for companies that hire illegals knowingly.

    Illegals come here for jobs. Take away the jobs, take away the incentives.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    The "new" bill offers unethical (and illegal)employers all kinds of ways to be able to put illegal employeees in front of legal American citizens.

    Why should we believe the feds will offer MORE and better enforcement just because there is a new piece of (worthless) paper in existence?

    Why not have the feds pretend the enforcement mechanism is ALREADY HERE?

    There's absolutely no reason to pass a "new" law, just enforce the "old" law.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Jan. 29, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    Though I favor comprehensive immigration reform and keeping good folks here, I do not necessarily favor citizenship as the goal. For the young, definitely. For the mature folks here (raising families) maybe not. Perhaps permanent residency is sufficient and would be less of a lightning rod. To be politically palatable, any solution for those here will have to mean closing the door to more. The borders will have to be tight and employment verification will have to go into service nationwide.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Jan. 29, 2013 6:03 a.m.

    I predict a show down in the house on any reform that has an amnesty option.

    And I will go further out on that limb and predict it wont pass in that house.