Cloud of pollution hanging over the valley provides lessons

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    Jan. 29, 2013 7:39 p.m.

    I think we'll be okay. Your first priority isn't profit. My first priority isn't profit. In fact, I don't know anybody whose first priority is profit. Do you? We need to position ourselves so that we can afford to clean things up. That's how we've done it in the past. That's how we'll do it in the future.

    Corporations take a lot of flak for supposedly being greedy and caring only about profit. But have you ever been on the inside? That's not how any corporations I've been involved with work, either large or small. They really do care about their communities and their environment. Because they have to take a balanced approach - going out of business doesn't really empower them to do much of anything - they get criticized. But we ALL have to take a balanced approach. You don't give all your money to charity, do you? You buy food, you buy clothes, you buy housing, and sometimes you even take in a movie. Cut corporations a little slack - but not the ones that are truly evil (like Enron).

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 29, 2013 10:57 a.m.

    By extension, economy-killing environmental moves will limit our ability to maintain a clean environment...

    You cannot maintain a clean environment...

    if your first priority is profit.

    Coal mines

    Copper mines.

    Lax Utah legislation.

    Utah is named the worst air quality in America.

    I cannot make this up.

    Jan. 28, 2013 8:17 p.m.

    UBD is absolutely right, but didn't go far enough. A clean, vibrant environment is, if history is any indicator, dependent on economic vitality. By extension, economy-killing environmental moves will limit our ability to maintain a clean environment, and, in the long run, will harm the environment. The poorer we become, the lower will be the technology to heat our homes and transport us. Horse manure and soot, anyone?

    Some of the ways "forward" that are being implemented don't work. The energy ROI on wind and solar is not sufficient to be self- sustaining. They are in fact consuming wealth and decreasing our ability to improve the environment in the long run.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Jan. 27, 2013 2:09 p.m.

    The funny thing is Money and the environment are not mutually exclusive of each other.... you can have both. I don't care about global warming.... we see enough evidence of mans impact at the local level to not need arguments at the macro level to justify action.

    The underpinnings of technology based solutions are there. The development of new technology will be the engine of economic growth for the next 20 years.... we can either get on board and be the engines of the next technology boom... or we can let other countries like China take the lead play catch up if we can. Once we have lost the lead in new technologies, it will be very hard for us to get some of that glory back.

    A clean, vibrant environment is not mutually exclusive of economic growth. I wish people could get that point.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    What's more important?

    Health and the environment or money?

    Can you eat, drink, and breath money? Some people apparently think you can. Why else would our state leadership be so opposed to cleaning up our air and standing up to big business?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    Of course there are lesson.

    But you cannot teach people, who refuse to listen until their loved ones start dying from athsma, COPD and lung cancer.