one old manOgden, UTMay I nominate this letter for Dumbest of the
Month?[I 2nd the motion!]============= FlashbackLost in DCJesus told Peter to put his sword away,
and replied;Those who live by the sword, shall die by the sword.Keep your guns.You have your agency to choose your method of
death.BTW- Christ's promise goes both ways for the
Peacemakers.Those who do not take up weapons, will not perish by
weapons.think about it.
There's a lot of cognitive dissonance going on and circular logic.You need guns so they won't take your guns and you love the constitution
so much you are willing to attack the government formed by the constitution.I keep asking and maybe it won't "disappear" this time, who
exactly do you plan on pointing all these guns at? I'm just
saying when you have a picture like the one attached to this story and use the
threat of guns in the political process, I'm not seeing the distinction of
that and the terrorists we don't like from overseas.
BTW Old Switch, The DNEW print ads still have some guns in from time to time.
KSL made a business decision. A bad one, but none the less a business decision.
I'm pretty sure that Pres. Monson didn't have any input in the
Old switcharoo, I'm pretty sure that the Savior would knew that Peter had
said sword because he was all about people using their agency (as Peter did).
I'm also sure that he knew what Peter would do with the sword. But he let
Peter use his agency to defend him. Kind of like the gun debate.
Bad people have their agency and sometimes use it improperly to bad result.
Good people have their agency and usually exercise it to good result. Agency is about using your freedom of choice to make bad or good decisions.
Agency is given to us by the big guy upstairs.Buying a gun, or
having access to one is generally a good choice. It is those few evil people
that give the choice of law abiding citizens a bad name.So if you
are going to bring religion into the gun debate, make sure you all know what you
are talking about.
REal Maverick, you are right. Idiot drivers do kill people or hurt them. What
a moment of clarity you must have had.Statistics from the NTSB and
IIHS state that smaller cars are indeed not as safe although they are getting
better. I was driving on Bangerter the other day, saw an accident involving an
Impala and some kind of new Fiat. The full sized Impala trashed the little
Fiat. There were two ambulances on scene and it looked like they were working
on both of the occupants of the Fiat. The driver of the Impala was out walking
around. It looked like the Fiat turned right on a no right turn signal and got
biffed by the Impala that was in the supposedly protected left turn lane. Fiat
driver not paying attention. Luckly the Fiat got hit in the back quarter and
the accident was not a true t-bone or the passenger would have been possibly
more than hurt.Moral of story? Cars are rolling time bombs. The
chance of being hurt, or worse is potentially 100% every time you get in one.
The fact it dosen't happen means most people drive safely.
The writer of this letter is correct -- on both counts. Good letter.
To what end did he allow him to be armed? He chastised him, put the ear back on
and allowed himself to be taken. Christ was the example so show me
where he was ever armed or encouraged it. The distinction between a often
erroring servant and Christ has not slipped past ME.Let's see
what the modern church has to say and DO. And be clear, nobody is even hinting
as a gun total ban.In the wake of the Newtown, Conn. shooting, a
Mormon Church-owned company announced Tuesday night it was suspending all gun
listings on its popular classifieds site.In addition to removing gun
listings, KSL.com — the online hub for Salt Lake City's NBC
affiliate, which is operated by church-owned Deseret Digital Media — took
down the "Firearms and Hunting" section from its website. A company
statement that replaces the site's gun section says they were
"profoundly saddened" by the Newtown shooting."In the wake of
other similar incidents, important questions have been raised about the ease of
access to guns," the statement reads. "These questions deserve time for
careful consideration and we are confident that an appropriate resolution will
Switcharoo,Christ may have reversed the action, but He still allowed his
chief apostle to be armed. It appears that fine distinction may have slipped
Didn't Christ make it clear enough when he put the soldier's ear back
on? Still lost.
Switcheroo,You mean Peter did NOT use a sword to cut off the
servant's ear when they came to arrest Jesus at the garden? And anyone who
owns a weapon is crazy? I guess we know your opinion of Peter.Maverick,I guess you've never seen the studies showing those in 2
ton SUVs survive crashes much better than those in subcompacts. Too much MSNBC
for you! We may be dead last in per pupil funding, but NOT in standardized test
scores. We must be doing something right.
I argue that the first right any person has that government should not have
anything to do with is marriage not guns. The idea that a person
needs to get a permission from the government to get married goes straight back
to the Kings and theocracies the deified forefathers fled.Your right
to own guns is mentioned nowhere in the scriptures nor were the "bearing of
arms" practiced by Christ. Keep your guns for goodness sake, I'm sure
not going to come take anything from crazy people. If that attitude happens to
get you into the millennium I bet it will be quite a sight to see gun nuts
destroying their guns into pruning hooks.
May I nominate this letter for Dumbest of the Month?I agree that
psychiatrists need to report worrisome people. But the problem is that
"privacy" laws -- pushed and passed by conservatives, by the way,
usually prevent that.We also have a problem in that no one can be
prevented from packing a gun until they have been convicted of a FELONY. Yet a
huge number of people who have been convicted of violent acts that were only
MISDEMEANORS may still legally carry guns.That means that about 2/3
of active gang bangers may carry. It means that in a majority of cases in which
a gun is used to murder someone in cases of domestic violence, the ones carrying
the guns are legally able to do it. Do we need to change the laws to include a
history of violent misdemeanors in laws preventing gun possession.This letter is a classic example of trying to divert attention away from the
real problems and push it toward some kind of imaginary nonsense.
So what research do you have which proves that the cars being pushed by their
gas mileage are causing the increase in deaths?To borrow a repub
zinger and apply it here, "Cars don't kill people they are a tool.
Idiot drivers kill people."Instead of bashing Obama and his
green friendly agenda lets focus on the selfish drivers and their poor
education. Remember, we're dead last in per-pupil funding.