Buoyed by President Obama, leaders press for climate action

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  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Jan. 27, 2013 2:56 p.m.

    Mr. Obama stated before the election that in his 2nd term "jobs" would be his #1 priority.

    Since reelection, he has emphasized every liberal cause to the complete omission of doing or proposing anything that positively impacts the economy to improve the environment for hiring.

    Why are we yammering on about Climate Change, something we cannot impact, instead of working to CUT SPENDING, something we CAN impact??

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 8:43 a.m.

    For people that don't try to recognize God in any of this will try to blame something else besides a decline in morality in private and public areas of our lives.

    People make money in these global warming, climate change and other philosophies, lots of money while putting fear into people's minds from the impending doom.

    It is good to see that some people place emphasis on people and not all these detractions to keep us away from having relationships with our families and friends.

  • Clinton Draper, UT
    Jan. 27, 2013 8:36 a.m.

    It doesn't matter if "climate change" is fact or fable, or a mixture of the two. It should not be something we turn over to the federal government. Personally, I'd rather breath dirty air and go extinct in a state of freedom and liberty than to have an oppressive federal government interfering with my life all the time, and using the premise that the Earth cannot vary from a prescribed temperature as a platform to pillage the wealth of the populace. Also, if we don't care enough about this supposed "climate change," to do something about it as individuals, without the big guns of government aimed at our heads, then so be it!

  • Allisdair Thornbury, Vic
    Jan. 27, 2013 12:46 a.m.

    If in doubt as to climate change talk to an insurance actuary. These people look at cold hard figures and work out the costs. (always follow the money)

    Thirty years without a below average monthly worldwide temperature now please work out the probability of that happening without global warming.

    The world has never had stable climate however the normal rate of change has been slow measured in thousands of years not decades.

    We are not talking about localized changes like the medieval warming period that effected part of the northern hemisphere. Or the effect of Krakatoa exploding in 1883 which caused cooling for several months due to the dust shot high into the atmosphere.

    So doubt the science if you want, criticize the extremists both fore and against at your will. But the money is on more extreme weather events exacerbated by rapid climate change.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 26, 2013 10:36 a.m.

    Worf, perhaps it is you who needs to broaden a bit. Warnings about climate change have been coming for much more than just two years.

    And did anyone see NBC national news last night? Utah's dirty air made the headlines nationally.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 9:08 p.m.


    for once I agree with you,

    give the climate-change opportunists an opening, and all sorts of troubles and problems will be released on us.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Jan. 25, 2013 6:52 p.m.

    Quote, "If people could effect weather, it would be through HARRP. Look it up."

    People have been seeding clouds for about a 100 years. That's weather modification with a little bit of dust. Factor billions of tons of ancient CO2.

    And the HAARP program seems to have a lot of credibility. So what was the point? We are modifying the weather. But it's not called Pandora's box for nothing.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 25, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    @Pagan--Climate covers a span of many years--not just two. Broaden your sights.

    Climate change is as real as Manti Teo's girlfriend, or Clint Eastwoods model of Obama.

    If people could effect weather, it would be through HARRP. Look it up.

  • Samaritan01 Yuma, CO.
    Jan. 25, 2013 11:13 a.m.

    First the "Chicken Littles" among us called it Global Warming however, absent any proof of global warming they changed the term to Global Climate Change and now they want to rally huge amounts of money to stop it.

    I have news for the Global Climate Change crowd, climate has ALWAYS been with us....it's called Weather!!

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 10:25 a.m.

    Hottest summer on record.

    Ice storms in winter.

    Continuing to claim climate change is not real in the face of extreme weather year after year is not lazy.

    It is just plain stupid.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 25, 2013 5:01 a.m.

    Foresight is more valuable in conservation and environmental control efforts but money greases the wheels of progress to deny accountability and environmental controls until its too late and shutting down these corporations is considered something that can't be allowed.

    In the aftermath and trillions of tax dollars dozens of decades of subsidizing corporate industry to clean emissions the land and air and oceans have reached a level of suitable environmental standards that have become enforceable and safe to the environment. There is no such thing as viable green energy, we just need more restrictions on investors and revoke laws guaranteeing profit.

    Most of the world has been more accountable and responsible than corporate US so we have no right to impose laws and complaints on other nations. Importing corporations should be the target group of pollution by blocking all imports to the U.S. by corporations and business that have moved off shore to avoid environmental accountability.

    New industry must be held to environmental standards and laws or it is useless to even think of a clean environment. Oil shale fracturing by exploding millions of tons of bombs underground is one of the most potentially dangerous oil spill disasters.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 24, 2013 10:22 p.m.

    Climate is weather over a period of time. You can't call it climate change in just two or three years.

    Lazy thinking makes people easily persuaded.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 10:19 p.m.

    Dust bowl era..

    1930's. The phenomenon was caused by severe drought combined with farming methods that did not include crop rotation, fallow fields, cover crops, soil terracing and wind-breaking trees to prevent wind erosion.
    On April 14, 1935, known as "Black Sunday", 20 of the worst "black blizzards" occurred throughout the Dust Bowl, causing extensive damage and turning the day to night; witnesses reported they could not see five feet in front of them at certain points.

    During President Franklin D. Roosevelt's first 100 days in office in 1933, governmental programs designed to conserve soil and restore the ecological balance of the nation were implemented.
    President Roosevelt ordered the Civilian Conservation Corps to plant a huge belt of more than 200 million trees from Canada to Abilene, Texas to break the wind, hold water in the soil, and hold the soil itself in place.
    In the fall of 1939, after nearly a decade of dirt and dust, the nearly decade-long drought ended, as regular rainfall finally returned to the region.

    If you think Climate change is not real, then the Dust Bowls proves you wrong.

    WE created the backdrop for the dust bowl.

    We changed it.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Jan. 24, 2013 9:17 p.m.

    We only deceive ourselves!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 24, 2013 9:04 p.m.

    Read "Little House on Prairie", then research the dust bowl era.

    Changing climate (weather) is nothing new. Glaciers were at one time found in Missouri, but it melted. Tropical trees are found in Greenland buried in ice. Climate has not been a constant.

    Energy from the sun also varies, causing difference in ocean temperatures, and effects our weather.

    Could our leaders be deceiving us?

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 24, 2013 8:39 p.m.

    Look outside.

    Tell me where the moutnians are.

    If you want to lie and claim climate change is not real when last year was the hotest on record and we have an ice storm in Utah...

    I cannot help you.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Jan. 24, 2013 7:51 p.m.

    Denial is also quite blinding!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 24, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    Is there a time when climate didn't change, or are politicians using this as an excuse to take on more authority, and power?

    When we've all been taught in government schools, it becomes difficult seeing through the deceit.