The Federal Government has no business being involved with our schools
period!The Dept of Education needs to be gone - and the monies saved
can be returned to the States. No Child Left Behind was a utter and complete
failure.If a local school determines that some of the kids need a
breakfast, well it should be provided and any all other other issues concerning
a local school system should be handled without Federal Government interference
- Ie want some of your monies back to build a new school - well first you have
to teach this & that and agree to this and that and hire this group & no
more prayer , discipline , pledge of the allegianceSo why is Autism
an epidemic - it's caused by the vaccines.In my area it's unheard of
in the Amish communities - why ? they don't vaccinate , but if you want to
go to a gov. school - receive 47 vaccinations which only destroys the best
immune system on earth
Re:MemoFromA DemoSo...Where does the money come from? Obama's
stash?Sounds like you need a little public funding 101 education.Also...Look up which state,demographic,political party or whatever, is
the most charitable. You may be surprised.To say that we can always
do better is a true statement. But only if it is tempered by a knowledge of what
is being done now and what is the most effective way to create wealth, both
individually and collectively. So go on...Keep learning...graduate
from high-school, become a contributor and keep posting. Your progress in life
will be fun to watch.
Memo,Haven't you heard the phrase "there's no such
thing as a free lunch (or breakfast)?" Just because the money comes from the
federal government does not mean it's free. An economic simpleton could
understand that.That money comes from TAXPAYERS. From you and me.And based on the comments on this thread, there are a lot of people who,
like me, agree that we don't want to see Utah, or the U.S. turn into Soviet
Russia. Look how well that worked out for them! Hundreds of thousands of
children were thrown into the streets when the "free" programs finally
failed, because their families didn't know how to survive without
government assistance.Let the program stay for those who truly (if
sadly) need it. Congratulations to us Utahns who are wise and willing to take
care of our children's needs AT HOME. And c'mon...it's not like
those needs are so hard to address: bowl of oatmeal, toast, or fruit...quick and
very inexpensive to make.
I work part-time at a grade school and see how much of both breakfasts and
lunches are tossed in the garbage. So much taxpayer money down the drain. There
may be some children who truly do not have enough to eat--or enough healthy food
to eat--but from what I've seen in the last 25 years, that number is very,
very small. And we live in a school district with a very high % of low-income
families. While raising my own, I watched as neighborhood kids, whose parents
were on food stamps, WIC, etc., got bikes for Christmas, bought candy everyday
at the corner store, and received free lunches,while my six, who could have been
on reduced-priced meals at school, had so many fewer expensive toys and so much
less money to blow on treats, and were fed at home. It takes 5 minutes to cook
or nuke a panful or bowl of whole grain oatmeal. A 25 lb bag of it costs $36,
makes about 250 one-cup servings, and, served with milk is a complete protein.
Let's start talking personal and parental responsibility.
Hey, Utahns. We're a State of wealth! We should be the first to step up
and feed the hungry, cloth the naked, and succor those who stand in need of our
succor. Frankly, we can do more! We ought to be looking for lots of ways to be
charitable. Its time that those of you who have "enough unto spare"
open your wallets and give willingly, instead of waiting for the government to
pry open your wallet to get some of your stingy hard cold cash. Don't you
get it, our school food program is FREE, -- paid by the Federal government. We
are turning away over $15 million dollars a year, money that is free. Not only
should we gladly be serving breakfast and lunch, we ought to be serving dinners
out of our school kitchens. I see no reason why we don't keep our school
cafeterias open from 6:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m., and feed anyone who comes unto us.
Have we no charity?
I too would like to applaud the other comments. It's good to know that I
wasn't the only one disturbed by this article. It is easy to see why this
country is in so much trouble when you read articles such as this one. We have a
skyrocketing debt that threatens to collapse our economy, and these people are
worried that more Utah children aren't eating breakfast at school? The
article reads, "with one in six households lacking the resources necessary
to healthy eating." Well, my family can't figure out why we have 38%
of the state's children qualifying for free or reduced lunch if only 1/6
lack the resources for healthy eating. I believe that the article should read,
"Utah Leading the Nation," instead of "Utah Falling Behind."
We're obviously doing something in this state better than the rest of the
nation - Good Job Utahns!!
Re: SqweebieAs an LDS Bishop, I can tell you that there is no
direction from the church to direct people to any government program. There is
a lot of direction on helping people become self sufficient, better employed,
and living within their means... but applying for food stamps? That's a
new one on me. Also, there is no discrimination between those who come to
church regularly and those who do not. Most, if not all, food assistance comes
from the Bishop's storehouse which distributes food of the highest quality.
to Grundle - actually more bishops are telling people now to apply for food
stamps and where the food bank is in their neighborhood. This is especially true
for those who don't come to church very often for whatever reason. To tell
you the truth the food given away 75% is past its expiration date and the dairy
products like milk, yogurt and cream cheese you can't even use.The stores
can't legally sell it they shouldn't be giving it to the food banks.
So just throw in a third meal and a bedroll, and the government can take over
the entire job, right? Oh wait--the Soviets tried that, and it didn't work
so well. They tried lots of other things we are trying, like destroying the
free enterprise system, invading Afghanistan, taking over all the medical care,
etc. None of it worked out very well. So, in failing to learn by observation,
we here in the loud and proud U. S. get to learn everything the hard way.
If the lunches for the rest of Utah schools are as bad as Beaver HS then the
kids are getting a reprieve. They are absolutely horrible and sometimes
If I'd said the other candidate was 'disgusting' my comment
would've been tossed. DN rations comments from one side.Obama
won. Get over it. If you don't like it you can leave.
That's good news. It means families from Utah take care of their own. They
don't leech off the federal govt. for more "free stuff".
DN subscriber2- I used to be told by a wise man I knew that Liberals are always
looking for someone to give a "handout" (or taking one) and
Conservatives are always looking to give a "hand up". This
story, especially the part about how Utah could get more aid if only more people
took it, makes me sick. I'm all for helping the needy, in fact, I've
been the recipient of aid in my life, however, coaxing kids to come eat at
school who already eat a healthier breakfast at home is insane. This happens
even where we live, the school sends notes home begging that kids come eat
breakfast so they can qualify for more grant money. Enough! I see these
"needy" people all the time pulling up to school dropping their kids off
for free breakfast in their Escalades
Some of you should go look at what the government calls "breakfast" in
the school. I know the lunch ladies at my kid's school are totally
frustrated at how poor it is, they are actually not allowed to cook good food,
but instead are forced to use pre-packeged stuff that the gov't approves,
like frosted pop tarts (1 per kid), or the wonderful rice crispy treats made of
the OH-so-healthy Trix cereal.It is a disgrace.Kudos to
Utah for staying away from that stuff.
What an Orwellian story line!A wise man said: “Liberals
measure compassion by how many people are given welfare. Conservatives measure
compassion by how many people no longer need it.” What we see
here is a plea from a government bureaucrat to increase the number of
"poor" kids she can feed, while ensuring her job security.And, even worse, what is less visible is the huge pressure to get as many
people as possible on to the liberal welfare plantation, dependent on
government, and thus reliable Democrat voters.Just where do those
15.5 Million extra "free" dollars come from to feed an additional
640,000 students? Why from taxpayers, of course. If the kids
getting "free" meals really understood what was being done to them, they
would gladly skip some meals now, if it would help get them out of paying for
all the "free stuff" that is being given away today. The $16+ trillion
dollar debt the KIDS will have to pay off (with interest to the Chinese) proves
that these are not "free" meals at all.
""If we were able to serve an additional 640,000 students, that would
bring in $15.5 million more into this state," she said." This is what is wrong with our current paradigm.It is so sad to
see what is happening in our country.On Sunday I referenced several
examples of how the church used to teach self reliance. I was surprised at how
many people had never heard of the church's admonitions not to accept
government handouts. I even had a couple of people want to argue the point.The world is changing. I am not sure it is for the better.
Just like we rank last in cigarette smoking and alcohol abuse. YEA! I want to
be last in dysfunctional families, last in welfare, last in neglect of children.
We need to celebrate this latest announcement - and not criticize us for
As usual, when I read this front page story this morning I felt like I was
living in upside down world. We rank last in free breakfasts? As others have
stated the flip side of that is that we rank first in Parent provided breakfast
which I always thought was a basic parental responsibility. Not in upside down
world I guess. Now we rank last because we aren't maxing out the
borrowed/printed money from the Federal Government by actually feeding our
children. What a sad state of affairs.
Melinda Montano stated; that it is one less thing to worry about as she hustles
the kids off to school. I realize that she is a single mother, but like many of
the writers commented, maybe the time with mom, and talking about their
education over a bowl of oatmeal would be better spent than having that time
spent in the school cafeteria, eating institutional food, prepared by kind but
uninvolved adults. Where is the parental involvement in our children's
lives now? Just take care of them cradle to grave.
In addition to the comments already posted, I applaud that Mom is cooking (when
she can) breakfast for her children. We should be proud if a Mom can do some
basic "Mom" stuff. My wife and I are so happy we could meet ends such
that I worked and she worked at being a Mom and taking on so many household
affairs and issues. She aspired to be a Mom since she was in elem school and a
classmate was sick. The teacher asked the child where her Mom was. She did not
know. My wife raised her hand and said she knew where her Mom was. At home.
Her Mom came in and took the sick child home. OK, I know this would never fly
today, but my kids knew their Mom was always available when they needed her. We
went without some nice things in life, but there is nothing more "nice"
than being there for a child. Not everyone can do it. But everyone who can,
should have one parent who can be the "Household Engineer." Dad or Mom.
Wow, free breakfasts? Where do I sign up? Now I can quit feeding my own children
because the government will pay for their food! Is this a great country or what?
This is good news assuming every child in Utah whoneeds breakfast is
Access breakfast? Access breakfast? My children eat breakfast. Which I cook
for them. Are Utah children actually androids or something?Also,
seriously, there is something wrong about assuming that if the state
doesn't feed kids they don't eat.
Thanks, but no thanks. You can keep your bread and circuses.
Wow! Deseret News what other studies can you find that shed a bad light on
education. Seems like every week or so you are searching and searching for
anything negative to say about education.
In a normal world, the headline, "Utah ranks last in U.S. in number of
students eating breakfast at school" would be greeted with praise and
welcomed.But, with our perverted "All our needs must be met by
Government" mentality nowadays, it is just the opposite.This is
demonstrated by the subsquent sentence, "While Utah schools rank low
nationally, many have seen improvement. Canyons School District went from 26,558
free breakfasts served in October 2011 to 29,182 in October 2012."So, the news that *more* children are fed by the government rather than their
own families is considered an "improvement".And we wonder
why/how our government has become the insolvent, debt-ridden mess that it is.
I have no problem with poor kids getting subsidized meals at school. They are
healthier and learn better, which increases their prospects for breaking the
cycle of poverty.But I too wonder at the headline. Why
wouldn't we want to be last in a poverty measure? If our murder rate were
last, would the headline scream out "Utah ranks LAST!"?The
idea that the meals are free is bothersome. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE
LUNCH! or a free breakfast. SOMEONE has to pay for it. Call it was it is, a
subsidized meal.It is bothersome that schools try to recruit kids to
leave home earlier and spend more time away from their familes so the schools
can get more money to feed them. If they were fed at home, the school would not
need to incur the cost to feed them and the money would not be needed.
it's not like they can funnel some of the money into other programs
anyway.One thing missing from the article was the possibility that
some of Utah's poor receive some type of church assistance, which allows
the children breakfast at home with their families.
The Vietnam war was to prevent the spread of strong government control.Looks like we loss the war.
It sounds like we are in a contest to see which state can be more of a nanny in
feeding more kids breakfast as school. Just like the CHIP insurance program for
kids, the government is always encouraging more people to take advantage of the
programs. Could it be that the number of participants bring more
funding for the program?We should be proud that Utah doesn't
require as much government help and intervention in our lives.
Government is to big, personal responsibility is to small and children suffer.
Congratulations Utah for feeding your own children breakfast!
More results from our legislature that featured Chris Buttars and Karl Wimmer?
The school breakfast program is another example of the federal government
stepping in and trying to take over parent responsibility, I am not advocating
that children go hungry but a bowl of fruit at the front of the classroom would
suffice. This program wastes so much it is unbelievable. Each morning I can hear
our tax dollars being flushed. It is sad.
Breakfast is to be eaten at home and at the parents (not the taxpayers) expense.
The more students who do that, THE BETTER. The list should be turned upside down
with Utah number 1. Well done Utah.
At least Utah has one good bragging point, the kids are healthier and the
parents are smarter knowing that school food has no nutrition or health
benefits.And it means we are wasting fewer tax dollars on foreign
aid. All these parents are receiving funds to buy, prepare, and feed their
children at home so why are tax payers forced to pay a 3rd time to feed the
children of the poor? Families on welfare and living in communal
homes get paid $3,600(three thousand six hundred dollars a month) each in food
stamps and feed theses children so where is all this money going if they are not
feeding their children? Then we are also giving these same children WIC funding
for food and broth to eat at home and what is all this money being used for?
Then these poor children have drive by food wagons on the weekends and holidays
daily in summer to get free sandwich to take home and eat with the parents
sharing in that bounty. With billions of dollars being handed out for food, then
why are the schools and taxpayers spending more money to provide free catered
food at schools?
I am a huge supporter of school lunch and what that has done especially for poor
families nationwide, but this is a troubling topic of breakfast. If we parents
are too busy to take care of our kids first thing in the morning, then we are in
big trouble. The nutritional start is only half the issue. Our kids need a few
minutes of our time to ensure they have their homework ready, talk to them about
tests that day, etc. If needed, school breakfast should be supported, but
parents should not think this is some kind of escape valve that lets them off
the hook from their most important job.We talk on the one hand of
having low test scores and then talk about parents not having the time for
another meal. Can't have it both ways...
My children qualified for reduced price lunches but I thought, I might not be
rich but I don't need government welfare for my kids. Then, the school
district appealed to parents whose children qualify to take the reduced price
lunches because government funding was based upon the number of kids in free and
reduced price lunch programs. So even though we don't need this welfare,
the government tries to bribe us into getting on the dole so the schools can get
@TruckerRon...you are so right! Wow, it seems that those who are so
concerned Utah should be feeding breakfast to more children could help educate
parents on how to cook a pot of oatmeal, scramble some eggs and pour a glass of
skim milk. Those are not expensive to buy or prepare. But it takes time,
effort and PLANNING!Maybe one of the requirements for children
receiving FREE food would be that their parents must enroll in nutrition and
food prep classes.My goodness, this article makes it sound like
there are national bragging rights for the states with the most children
receiving this form of welfare.
Shouldn't we be proud of the fact that so many of us are able to provide
breakfast at home for our children? That fewer Utah children need to be fed at