Oakland Baptists visit LDS headquarters

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  • John Simpson ARLINGTON, VA
    Jan. 28, 2013 6:15 p.m.

    As a former Methodist with enduring abundant affection for Methodism (especially the historic, committed version), I would agree with Arkansas gal and others commenting here. The doctrinal differences between the LDS Church and Methodism are actually not that important in terms of how we act each day. Both traditions discourage bad habits, urge good works, and yet ultimately rely on the saving grace of Christ's sacrifice. The differences with those who reject Christianity on the whole as a "fairy tale" loom much larger.

  • Fred "Mr. IT" Anson Lake Forest, CA
    Jan. 22, 2013 12:46 p.m.

    It always puzzles me why today's Mormons insist on minimizing their unique religious and cultural distinctives as some have done in their comments here.

    Given the rich texture of Mormon History and culture - not to mention a theological system so distinct that the title of "The Fourth Great Abrahamic Religion" was proposed by Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention - I would think that Mormons would be loudly declaring, "Oh no, we're not Christians we're something different altogether: We're Mormons!"

    Instead, Latter-day Saints insist on trying to squeeze their square peg into a round hole that they have never fit and never will. Why do Mormons value their distinctives so little that they're willing to sell them for a porridge called, "Me too! I'm one like you!"'

    Yet when outsiders call them on this needless, unproductive, and inaccurate line blurring they gets pounced on, denounced, and condemned by Latter-day Saints. It's a real head scratcher!

    So to paraphrase the late great James Brown, may I respectfully suggest that Mormons stop all that and just say it loud: "I'm Mormon and I'm proud!"

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 19, 2013 9:41 a.m.


    Lighten up Francis...

  • HP in Dixie Atlanta, GA
    Jan. 18, 2013 5:45 p.m.

    I converted to the LDS Church 37 years ago and have been active since. Before that I was Southern Baptist. From my experience, I believe LDS and other Christian churches are more alike than different. I say that without compromising my testimony of the Restored Gospel. I also believe we all should work together on common causes and quit name calling and "holier than thou" attitudes. To paraphrase a well known saying, "We must all hang together or we surely will all hang separately."

    Jan. 18, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    @J-TX, I'm speaking the truth, I'm sorry if you take it as divisiveness. Like I said, it's fine for different faiths to work together for community causes.. but the differences between these two faiths should not be blurred. To do so is an injustice to everyone concerned.

  • Fred W. Anson Lake Forest, CA
    Jan. 18, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    Speaking as an Evangelical Christian, we can most certainly join the LdS Church in working toward commonly agreed social goals that are outside of, and that don't cross theological lines.

    This is known as "Peaceful Cobelligerence" which, in a religious context, simply means an alliance between groups, which are normally opposed on doctrinal grounds, for a common social goal. A good case study is how conservative Evangelical Christians and the Roman Catholic Church allied in joint efforts to oppose abortion.

    However, if one or both parties confuse Peaceful Cobelligerence with theological unity or implicit endorsement of the other group's theology or doctrine then BOTH groups have a problem for their group distinctives are being compromised.

    Unfortunately, this problem seems to be creeping into how this event is being perceived. I know of many Evangelical groups who have visited LdS Church Headquarters - some whom have met with General Authorities in private meetings - those disagreement with LdS Theology and doctrine remained unchanged afterward.

    I don't know but I would suspect that this is yet another one of those cases.

  • SparkyVA Winchester, VA
    Jan. 18, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    I was raised a Presbyterian, but felt that I was predestined to become a latter-day Saint. Actually my conversion was more serious than that, but I felt that my upbringing and instruction in the scriptures was all good, and that conversion to LDS was just a natural progression in a life dedicated to Christ. I was particularly impressed with a young minister we had that taught us the principle of tithing, although the congregation as a whole rejected the teaching.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Jan. 18, 2013 7:21 a.m.

    Religious prejudice is just like racism. As long as people accentuate and emphasize the differences, it will remain a divisive force. If the similarities were emphasized, more people could get past the superficial differences and focus on the fact that we are all children of God.

    Ex-Mormon, this is why Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have careers.

    What are you gaining from your divisiveness?

    Jan. 17, 2013 8:45 p.m.

    @Cat, no, actually it breaks my heart, I love my LDS family and friends and I care about everyone's eternal destiny. I wish it were as simple as just, different Christian denominations coming together, but the truth is, it's not.

  • bellsandbells FULTON, MO
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    I have found many worth while truths and common ground with all the faiths of my friends. They wouldn't be my friends if there wasn't common ground to begin with. I tell my friends they have many parts of the puzzle. We just have the missing parts to the puzzle (LOL) and that is why I hope they will someday read the Book of Mormon. A faithful LDS I know, says, "I learned many good things in the Catholic Church...and then I learned there was more." There is no need to undercut the good that people have. Just share and invite them to learn more if they are interested.

    While sitting in a waiting room one day, I picked up a religious pamphlet beside my chair. I found the most interesting article. It read almost word for word as if it came from the Pearl of Great Price. I spoke to someone from that religion and was very surprised to learn that they, too, take their religious doctrine from the earliest verifiable text. There were a few "missing pieces" but an excellent foundation for truth.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 7:02 p.m.

    Dear Ex-Mormon,

    Very sad. Does that make you feel better?

    Jan. 17, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    It's fine to be friends and do community service together, but there is no spiritual fellowship between Born again Christians and Mormons, they worship different Gods and they follow different gospels...

  • goblu South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 3:44 p.m.

    Loved the Southern Baptists in Alabama. Their jenerosity is in part why i gained 30 lbs on my
    mission despite the bike!

  • BevWel Roseburg, OR
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    Wonderful story. It is so heartwarming to see churches work together. I came from a variety of churches and am so happy to be a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I have been a member for 54 years now but I remember many special experiences in the churches I attended as a child, especially the Methodist Church and the Catholic Church. We all serve the same God.

  • cindyb CASPER, WY
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:05 p.m.

    I am always happy to see people working together for the good of all. This is how the Savior would have it. What a nicely written article.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 2:01 p.m.


  • iron&clay RIVERTON, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 1:11 p.m.

    So Cool.

  • What in Tucket? Provo, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 11:07 a.m.

    I have been a Mormon for 53 years, but recall my early days in the Presbyterian Church with love and affection not only for Presbyterians, but all Protestants and Catholics. Christians should not be fighting, but cooperating.

  • Aggielove Cache county, USA
    Jan. 17, 2013 10:38 a.m.

    My how times have changed

  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    I have similar story as Arkansas_gal and totally agree with her. This is really great news reported.

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    Nicely done! Exciting stuff.

  • artmom DENVER, CO
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:28 a.m.

    The LDS and Baptist church can collaborate on more than welfare. We have the same beliefs about the sanctity of human life and the sanctity of marriage. Both of these are under attack in the U.S. Also, freedom of religion is under attack in the U.S.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Jan. 17, 2013 8:24 a.m.

    @ Arkansas-gal. Great letter, thanks for writing it!

  • Arkansas_gal DE QUEEN, AR
    Jan. 17, 2013 7:48 a.m.

    I love hearing about the collaboration between denominations! I come from Baptist roots and I must tell you that when I joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I had a good Gospel foundation because of my Protestant roots. I know that both parties came away with goodwill and a better understanding of one another.