Hatch's whole campaign was about getting power, not about conservatism.1 vs 5. So who is the out of touch radical?There was a more
conservative candidate on the ballot, from the constitution party, named Shaun
McCausland.If you want to shape politics beyond just waiting to vote
for whomsoever the parties put up, you have to get involved with some party and
shape the nominations. Registering as non-affiliated, or choosing not to
actively participate in your chosen party is not an excuse, it is a choice. You
Mike, Hatch is not a doctrinair Republican. He does have a pragmatic streak and
he thinks about the good of the whole, instead of the good of the few. He knows
more about the Constitution that you will ever know and in my opinion,
understands it better.While I haven't always agreed with some
of the things that Hatch has done, he has done much to keep the Democrats from
totally giving away the farm on may issues. He largely kept Ted Kennedy in
line. Most of the problem lately has been with "moderate/liberal"
Republicans (Snow, Spector, Hagel, etc). Hatch is no moderat/progressive like
you accuse him of being. He's conservative in the Ronald Reagan vein.
To "Open Minded Mormon" tell us, what was the option to Hatch? Did we
have a more conservative person available in the general election? Was there a
person who better represented Utah during the general election?You
and your ilk would have put in the most liberal canidate available. Would that
have represented Utah or not? Is Utah a liberal or conservative state?Since I am not registered Republican, I could not do anything during the
primary election.Again, are we to elect somebody who represents the
state as a whole, or do we elect somebody based on your criteria alone?
Utah is a red state. Demcrats are almost extinct in this state. Utah sends
people like Chafftez, Lee and Hatch to washington, where they do nothing except
waste time. The nation or the state should not be ran with a 1 party rule.
Corruption is sure to follow,( John Swallow) with no accountability being had
by the party in power. Untill the voters in this state wake up and send these
guys packing, like our republican state legislators, the state will continue to
be dead last in education spending, and first in ignorance.
@J ThompsonSPRINGVILLE, UTEver notice how boarish some people
are when they pretend to have knowledge about something that is none of their
business. One poster claimed he "knew" how another poster voted. How
does he know? Was he there?========JThompson, So
you don't like Senator Hatch, we get it.But I gotta ask the
same question as Mike and RedShirt....Why did YOU vote for him?
It seems that everybody is willing to give Hatch a pat on the back for voting to
put each of us, man, woman and child, in debt to the government $50,000.
That's right. The $16,000,000,000,000 deficit comes to $50,000 per person.
That's the problem. Hatch ignores it, even though he campaigned to stop
the spending, even though he campaigned to oppose Obama's budget
policies.He caved.He caved the first time he had an
opportunity to vote. He caved after having just six minutes to read a 150 page
bill. He caved without knowing what he was voting for. He caved without
thinking what he was doing to you and me and every other Utahn. He caved to
political pressure.Four of his fellow Congressmen had the courage to
stand for the principles of Utah. Even Jim Matheson voted against that bill.
When four honorable men vote one way and one man votes the other way, what does
that tell us about Hatch? Is he the "radical"? Is he the
"rebel", or is he just someone who cares about Orrin Hatch?He thumbed his nose at his fellow Congressmen and everything that they stand
I have no doubt that Hatch doesn't represent Mr. Richards. I have no
problem. I am sure he doesn't represent a lot of people. But unlike Mr.
Richards opinion, Hatch does represent Utah... and he represents a lot of Uthans
who consider themselves just as much as conservatives as Mr. Richards - just not
Mr. Richards brand of conservatism. It is all fine and good for
anyone to have an opinion. It is grand to express that opinion. But it goes a
bit beyond that to declare that Hatch doesn't represent this state, any of
its people, or the constitution of this country. Hatch may not express Mr.
Richards views, but it is safe to say Mr. Richards is not the arbitrator of what
is or is not constitutional, or conservative. Opinions yes.... authority....
no so much.Bike Mikes voice is worthy of listening to, as is
There is no doubt in my mind that if Hatch had lost in his primary he would not
have thrown his support behind the Republican nominee a la Richard Lugar in
Indiana. It doesn't really bother me that Hatch voted for the McConnell
deal. I think it was smart to do that. But why make comments attacking the
alleged "far right"? Is it going to be the tea party's fault when
countries start dumping the dollar as their reserve currency and it all
collapses? When it all falls apart though I'm sure Senator Hatch will be
jetting away on a Gulfstream with Pelosi, Durbin, Schumer et al to warm
latitudes far from the chaos that ensues.
Wouldn't it be nice to just pat Hatch on the back and forgive him for
putting me, my family, and my grandchildren $1,800,000 in debt to pay for the
programs that he authorized as a Senator.He is worthy of every bit
of contempt shown him because he treats us as if we were all fools. "Uncle
Orrin" may think that he is benevolent, but he has bankrupted us. We will
never be able to pay off his and his friends' pork barrel projects.He embodies everything that is wrong with the Senate. He promised to
keep Obama from spending. The FIRST vote that he cast was to allow Obama to
have unlimited spending. What do you call a man who does that? It
certainly is not "friend of the people". Utah cannot afford him.
America cannot afford him. If YOU can afford him, show us that you've paid
in full the $50,000 that you now owe to the government because of the
government's spending spree. After you've paid your bill in full,
then we'll listen. Until then, please tell us just who you expect to pay
your portion of the deficit.
@Mike Richards - I don't agree with Orrin Hatch on much of anything. I do
not believe it is accurate to say he mocks the state of Utah, the people of Utah
or the US Constitution. I have had the opportunity to meet with
Sen. Hatch about various issues. He is very conservative, but deeply respectful
of Utahns and our opinions; he is truly concerned about the well being of the
people of Utah, the state of Utah and the United States of America. He takes
seriously his role as our representative in the Senate and his oath of office.
I don't agree with his policies but I respect him and I believe your
characterization of him does not conform to the reality of his words or
behaviors.We can disagree with one another's policy positions
and politics without resorting to extreme rhetoric.
Ever notice how boarish some people are when they pretend to have knowledge
about something that is none of their business. One poster claimed he
"knew" how another poster voted. How does he know? Was he there? Is
it possible that Mike Richards wrote in Dan Lindquist? Is it possible that Mike
didn't vote for that office? Is it possible that someone is so desperate
to prove the unprovable that he would ASSUME something when he has absolutely no
facts to support his claim?Hatch is a disgrace to Utah. He is a
disgrace to anyone who trusted him. He is a disgrace to his party. He lied
about how he would act as a Senator. As others have said, Hatch is taking a page
out of Obama's play book and blaming others for his own failures. None of
his spending has helped America. None of his bluster and bravado has helped
Utah. We already have seen what he thinks of "integrity". We can be certain that he will do exactly has he has done for the past
thrity-six years and that is to ignore the needs of Utah as he feathers his own
Hutterite: "I hope the GOP gets closer to the tea party."Of
course you do. Liberals and their cohorts in the media have successfully
convinced a large part of the American public that the tea party is a radical
group. Instead of a legitimate protest group against abusive government power
made up of ordinary citizens, it is often viewed as radical as the OWS crowd. A
complete farce in my opinion.In fact, I'll bet a large number
of liberal commenters on this site think that the OWS crowd is more
"normal" than the tea party.
Mike Richards -- 1. You are a devote Republican, and have by your
own admission stated you vote for the party, and not the person.2. You
have never denied it.3. Your comments by themselves are telling. So, Why did YOU vote for him?RedShirt -- Stop playing
Spin-Doctor.Same Question...So, Why did YOU vote for
him?Guess What --- I didn't vote for him.I
I hope the GOP gets closer to the tea party.
There was one person in the voting booth when I cast my ballot and that person
was me. No one, including members of my family watched me vote. Hatch was not
there. My wife was not there. Not one other person was there.In
communist Russia, everyone could see whether you voted with a "white
marble" or whether you voted with a "black marble". This is not
Russia, yet there are those who belittle citizenship by mocking those who vote.
Insecure people mock others. Bullies mock others. Tyrants mock others. Christ
and his followers don't mock.Hatch was elected to represent the
State of Utah. He was elected to represent the interests of Utah. He was
elected to uphold the Constitution.He does not uphold the
Constitution.He does not represent the State of Utah.He
does not represent the interests of Utah.Utah is the most
conservative state in the nation. Hatch should be one of the two most
conservative Senators in the nation. He MOCKS the people of Utah. He MOCKS the
State of Utah. He MOCKS the Constitution that he is duty bound to uphold.
I think that the letter is wrong. The radicals in the GOP are the Progressives
that have taken control. Unfortunately Hatch often sides with those
Progressives.If you look at the vote last election, the majority of
Republicans voted for the canidate that most reflected the Tea Party
conservative ideas. The radical Progressives opposed him, and tried to stop his
canidacy.The radicals are the ones trying to brand themselves as
different than the Democrats while taking the US to the same Socialist
Mike R. I think Hatch would say you are part of the problem. And Hatch was not
the only Republican that voted for spending that "have Bankrupted"
America. There were a whole bunch of sole called convervatives that joined in
on that during the Bush years and sadly some democrats as well.
Mike RichardsSouth Jordan, UtahHatch cares about Hatch. He lied
during his campaign. He lied during his thirty-six years in the Senate. He IS
the problem.============ So, Why did YOU vote for
Hatch cares about Hatch. He lied during his campaign. He lied during his
thirty-six years in the Senate. He IS the problem. He voted for the spending
bills that have bankrupted America. Now, he joins with Obama in blaming people
other than himself for the problem.He lied to us - intentionally.
He promised us that he would stop the excessive spending. His first vote after
the election was to increase spending and to pass as much of that cost onto a
small percent of Americans.Maybe he can tell us just where in the
Constitution he is allowed to redistribute wealth from one segment of society to
another. I can't find that provision. There is no mention of
"graduated taxes" in the Constitution, but there is mention of equal
responsibility to pay taxes based on population - not on ability to pay.He lied to us about his intentions and now he mocks those who demand
that elected officials abide by the rules set by the people. All government in
America operates by the will of the people. No government in America has rights
independent of the rights allocated to it by the people.Hatch
ignores that restriction.
Agreed.Great letter.There needs to be a Moderation is ALL
things.It's an eternal principal.Even in politics.
Great letter. Spot on