My father was a skilled shootist but my mother would not have them in the house.
So my father gave up the hobby and also the hunting that he had formerly done. I
also became somewhat proficient but never had the time or inclination to train
my children beyond gun safety and they in turn showed no interest. So I own guns
but do not use them anymore and my children do not own guns. Still
with all of that past I am sure my children could become proficient if the need
arose and I do not want to give up my guns even when I don't hunt or target
shoot anymore. I may need to return to the field to obtain food or I may need to
protect myself or my loved ones and I believe I am still skilled enough to do
that. I believe I have a very big barrier to my gun ownership in that I doubt I
would desire to kill just to protect property. I am good enough and some of my
guns are capable of just shooting off an arm or leg but that could also be
fatal. What do I do?
EDM: If you actually LOOK at the statistics, you see that outside of the major
metropolitan areas, gun violence is almost negligible.It isn't
guns that are the problem, it is cities! The statistics say that if you have a
large city, gun violence goes up!The obvious solution is easy to
see. Ban the cities!See how silly things sound if you interpret
then in the same ways the media and politicians do? FT: That is an
absolutely bogus statistic. Can you cite the source?
To "EDM" no, that is not the problem. The problem is that we don't
take mental health issues seriously enough. We don't have the bonds
between neighbors to be able to tell somebody that their child is mentally
unstable and that we are concerned with their family's well being.The issue is how do you change culture? Do you think that we can legislate
the change, or does this have to come from within people?
Red Shirt, Maybe you're right. We're barbarians. So then
let's change the culture.
To "EDM" you try to blame the deaths on gun violence, when the problem
is the US culture. Even if you get rid of the guns, it will change to something
else. In Japan it went from guns to swords and knives. What next, do we
restrict the purchase of knives and swords? What after that, axes and baseball
Good grief! No amount of statistics, other measures, or examples will ever
convince some of you that gun violence is a problem in the US. Is it just too
hard to swallow that you might not be living in the best place on earth today?
Of course any place can be the best place if that's what the individual
makes it. So for heaven's sake don't be so defensive that you refuse
to see an obvious problem.Read the article for what it is: a
highlight of one small aspect of the larger problem of lagging life expectancy
in the US.
This sounds more like a deceptive propaganda piece, not a news report.
@KDaveHaha which countries do this? Have you got anything to back
that up? I have lived in a few countries around the world and this is news to
You cannot compare stats with other countries. Example: In the U.S. life
begins at the moment of birth were-as other countries do not begin life until
the the child is as old as one year. This alone greatly skews life expectancy
rates. There are many more differences.
No doubt there is a media bias to support gun control. But its never had an
affect on gun legislation. Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have
their weapons used on them or someone else in their household. That's
their right and more proof to support Darwin's theory.
Chicago has very strict gun control laws and still has more murders than
soldiers killed in Afghanistan every year. For the 16 trillionth time, blaming
guns for crime is like blaming matches for arson or spoons for obesity. We are
witnessing the inevitable consequences of secular progressive, moral relativism
in America and it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of people who
don't understand the difference between good and evil behavior. James
Holmes, Jared Loughner and Adam Lanza have no idea of the difference and one can
only ask, why not? When we answer that question real progress can be made in
stopping these acts of violence. Until we can answer that question, we will
continue to have more of these mass murders and all the gun control laws in the
world will not stop them!
The latest line is that guns don't kill, movies and video games do. And we can't talk about guns until people don't die of any
other reason. As far as I'm concerned you can have your guns,
I'm certainly not crazy enough to try to take them from people crazy enough
to believe I would. See how that works?For all the certainty the gun
nuts have that the government is going to take their guns they can't nail
it down who would actually come to the door to do it.
Pathetic attempt to falisfy and create lies that and information that is
irrelevant and biased. Life expectancy has never been relevance to the question
of guns, freedoms, and violence, its all about the quality of life, not the
number of years living in prisons. Life expectancy among oppressed nations is
always shorter because or government corruption and not gun possession.
First, the story is from Associated Press, well known as a liberal bias advocacy
outfit, not unbiased reporters.Second, "correlation is not
causation."Ice cream sale go up in the summer. Crime goes up in the
summer. But,ice cream sales do not cause increased crime in the summer.Perhaps if they compared some other demographic information about the
early deaths in the U.S. that will tell a lot more about causation. Who are the
young people killing and being killed that skew the figures, and where do they
live? (Do the research!)Third- The timing of the release of this
story is just a little too convenient, on the day that Biden meets with anti-gun
groups. And, Feinstein has been working on her gun ban bill for over a year,
plenty of time for a coordinated propaganda push.Other life
expectancy factors include diet, exercise, alcohol use, mileage driven in
automobiles, drug abuse, and many other things. This is not a
"gun issue" no matter how hard the media spins it!