The severity of the penalty is usually related to their importance to the team.
If he's really pivotal, "we'll investigate it after the season
The crimes for Afa were obviously much more serious than what Blechen did, but
it does appear that Brian was given a free pass because he was a starter.-------------Two For FlinchingStatisticians use
averages, medians, and modes in analyzing probability. Each has its own unique
uses. Declaring that Utah plays "higher quality teams" because
Utah's average SOS is higher than BYU's assumes that average SOS is
the only valid measurement of "quality of teams".Sounds like
they need to include a little deductive reasoning in the curriculum at the U.
Not everything is as cut and dried as Utah fans seem to think it is.
@Flinching"Overall Utah plays higher quality teams."Overall, BYU has better records, more bowl games, more Top 25 finishes,
and higher rankings.FIVE Top 25 Opponents > TWO Top 25 Opponents
2ferBlechen didn't have any DUI's, but he also wasn't
disciplined at all by Utah football for using illegal drugs.-------------"Overall Utah plays higher quality teams."Not necessarily.BYU played FIVE Top 25 teams in 2012; Utah
only played TWO.The factor that SOS doesn't account for is that
if Team A plays the #1 and #120 teams, and Team B plays the #60 and #61 teams,
both teams will have a SOS of about #60.However, Team B has a MUCH
BETTER chance of going 2-0 than Team A.So which team had the more
difficult schedule?Utah may have had an overall higher SOS, but it
could be easily argued that BYU played a more difficult schedule, playing FIVE
Top 25 teams (THREE of them on the road), while Utah only played TWO Top 25
teams (only ONE on the road).
@ RockwellBlechen didn't have any DUIs@
CougfaninTXUtah's SOS 41, BYU 63. Overall Utah plays higher
Duckhunter, cool story. Like I said, I hope this discipline and an internal
resolve to change will help him straighten out his issues and be the same type
of person in society that I knew him as.Rockwell, don't even
bring up the Blechen incident if you don't even know what the story was,
@UteanymousI agree, people are complex and no one is all good or all
bad. But some people do some really bad things and the truth is that beating
someone unconcious is a far greater indicator of that persons character than
shoveling the neighbors walk.
@RockwellWhat's even more indicative of the discipline
inconsistencies at the u is that whittingham didn't sit blechen even after
2 offenses. blechen was forced to sit by an internal univeristy policy that
whittingham had no control over at all. whittingham didn't sit blechen the
1st time or the 2nd time, he just had to go along with it.
DuckhunterPeople are seldom all good or all bad.Unfortunately for Afa, the bad side is all that is being reported in the
media.It'll be interesting to see if Kyle gives Afa a chance to
rejoin the team or if his dismissal is permanent - almost everybody deserves a
second chance, and that's certainly the case with Afa.
Jealous UDon't confuse are Utah friends with facts like final
rankings. They're so into labels, that they're blind to whether a team
is actually any good or not.Thus, in their distorted view of
reality, they still think that Colorado(1-11) is a superior opponent to #21 San
Jose State(11-2).--------On the subject of the
article:Suspending Afa from the team for fighting, while sitting
Blechen for three non-conference games for his 2nd DUI shows a real
inconsistency in Whittingham's discipline policy.
Completely agree with UU32. I only hope Utes will remember that when a BYU
player makes a mistake. They are still kids, afterall.And I
completely agree with Jealous U. How can 2fer make any comments about the
schedule? Sure BYU had a couple of cupcakes, but so did U. Next year, we do
play Middle Tennessee State, who finished a respectable 8-4 in FBS play. While
U play Weber St who finished 2-9 in FCS play. Who plays the "big boy"
schedule? BYU has 5 2012 Top 25 teams on their 2013 schedule, how many for U?
@stgAll of us have more than one side to our character. For instance
I knew a guy that was an actual drug dealer and did some pretty despicable
stuff. He was a neighbor of mine back when I first was married. He eventually
got arrested, went to prison and some details of all the stuff he did came out.
But he was living there because he lived with his old and frail grandmother. He
cared for her, cared for her yard, took her for walks, basically did all of this
good stuff to help her out. He also used to shovel the snow off of many of the
neighbors walks and driveways, was cheerful and friendly to everyone in the
neighborhood. Ultimately though his other behaviors were the true indicators of
his true character.But it is the extremes that define us publicly,
like this instance for this guy. You beat a guy unconcious and you obviously are
not a great guy. Like most people he probably does have some good qualities,
unlike most people he obviously is violent and prone to fits of uncontrollable
rage. Those trait's do define him.
Judge not lest ye be judged.
Duckhunter, judge all you want, you seem to be good for that. I'm not going
to compare Afa to anybody that I don't know. I haven't talked to Afa
in over six months, so obviously some things have transpired since I was close
with him after he returned home from a mission. Your comment proves my point
that this is the reputation he's given himself because of his problematic
actions, regardless of the good he's done in the past and the people
he's influenced for the better, and that's too bad. But like I said, I
haven't seen Bridenstine since last summer, before he landed in trouble and
got himself removed from the team, so I'm quite disappointed because I know
the good person that he can be and knows how to be that you don't know.
@stgPerhaps you are exaggerating this guys character just a bit to
much? Certainly no single incident should completely define anyone but obviously
this guy isn't the great guy you have tried to paint him to be. He beat a
guy unconcious over apparently not much.I find it interesting how
utah "fans" consider utah athletes "great guys" regardless of
the stuff they do. Like the armed robber who pointed a gun at some other kids
heads and threatened to kill them, ute "fans" tell us he just "made
a mistake". Or the dui guy that missed all of 1 game. Now this guy who beats
a guy senseless but is really just "generous, kind and cheery". Yea he
sounds like all of those things. Good grief.Compare that to the two
BYU football players that got in the fight a couple of months ago and got booted
from the team. Not one comment on these boards called them "generous, kind
and cheery". Really weird how you guys think.
@ TrevvorWhat you said makes absolutely no sense. I have no idea
how many games Afa will miss and it's not my decision to make. However, it
won't matter how many games he is suspended for because he doesn't
ever play. My point is that your schedule smack is weak because BYU has played
a significantly weaker schedule than the U the past two seasons. Try to keep
@Flincher,So the schedule has something to do with how many games
the kid misses? Yep, just as I expected.
2ferWhile I will agree with your comment I wait with bated breath
for the day that the several of you pounce on some of your own.Too
bad this kid blew his chance. We can all hope that he straightens his life out.
Classy comment Trevvor. And please don't forget which teams plays a big
boy schedule and which team schedules Middle Tennessee St.
Unfortunate. Afa made a very poor decision, and will likely be remembered by the
community for that one decision, not as the generous, kind and cheery individual
he truly is, as anyone who knows him could attest. I hope he gets his issues
under control and represents himself better in the future, whether that future
includes football or not.
This is disappointing, and it was a foolish way to mess up a great opportunity.
Word going around is Kyle has suspended him against Division III Gimme State, to
hopefully teach him a lesson. He'll be back by game 2, IF needed.
24-year old redshirt freshman? I thought BYU had the corner on the market for