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  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    Ultra Bob:

    I would take the quality of action of the LDS church in its charitable efforts over the government in most every instance.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 11:00 a.m.

    The danger of a National Catastrophe Fund is that crooked politicians will use it to fund phony Pork projects.

    Where are the private charities that brag that they do so much better than government? After a lot of noise about contributing and giving, it seems strangely quiet about what those private charities are doing for the people in the Sandy crisis.

    As a non-believer in private charities, I believe they are just business in disguise, I support the use of government to provide aid and comfort to victims. Actually the government is the only one with the resources and the attitude to provide for the welfare of people.

    However each disaster aid situation should be handled on a case by case basis and not from a general fund. The aid should only go to people, not business. Business should not be supplemented beyond the normal repair of the public square.

    Flood insurance? The way I hear it, government flood insurance is a scam that some people use to repeated rebuild homes placed in risky places. Get the government out of the flood insurance business.

  • Emajor Ogden, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 8:54 a.m.

    Well, if that's the case it looks like your party has no integrity whatsoever. Boehner caved and put it to the floor for a vote after Gov. Christie and Representative Peter King (both republicans) publicly shamed the House leadership. If this were truly a principled stand by Boehner and the Republicans, as you claim it is, they've let you down badly, haven't they?

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 8:46 a.m.

    I was pointing out that the pork is going to your Republican friends. Contrary to what many people seem to believe, the GOP is not blameless. In fact, the Republican Party is at least as guilty for the mess we are in as Democrats and "liberals."

    People on both sides need to open their eyes.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Jan. 5, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    Old Man; The truth is what you said was a lot of spin but nothing to do with disaster relief. Thanks for making my point!

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 8:05 a.m.

    PART 2

    Quoting again: "What, you may ask, do these states far from New York and New Jersey have in common?

    Each is not only a red state, but each of these states are represented by two Republican senators—with the exception of Louisiana with its one GOP senator.

    And what happens when you buy off seven Republican senators with a package of goodies under the guise of storm relief supposedly meant to benefit two blue states?

    You get a filibuster proof piece of legislation."

    Hmmmm. See what happens when you do some research and learn the TRUTH?

    You get yourself a filibuster proof piece of legislation.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 8:03 a.m.

    MM, a little research is certainly in order. You might be interested in this paragraph from an article I Googled up in Forbes Magazine (which, I believe, is a very conservative publication).

    Quote: "However, as it turns out, the pork portions of the Senate bill were not earmarked to benefit Democratic members of the upper chamber of Congress. And you may be quite surprised to discover where that money is actually headed once the rich Senate legislation is passed by the House."

    The article continues: "Why, you might ask, would the Senate be packing billions of taxpayer dollars for these areas of the country that are nowhere near the devastation brought about by superstorm Sandy into a bill designed to bring relief to those suffering from the storm that ripped the northeastern part of the nation?

    The answer can be found in a quick review of the states that are set to benefit from the Senate’s extra-special benevolence—states including Alabama, Mississippi, Texas and Louisiana."

    I'll have to continue in another post.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Jan. 5, 2013 7:52 a.m.

    But what happened to the idea that everyone should be "responsible" for themselves? It's absolutely hilarious to hear Senators and Congressmen who scream bloody murder about any attempts to fund programs to help people now screaming that their districts need to benefit from "redistribution of wealth."

    So are they admitting that the people who live in their districts could actually use some help? Or are they admitting that they are some of the 47% who are too lazy and irresponsible to be worthy of consideration?

    Tea Party at its finest!

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Jan. 5, 2013 7:48 a.m.

    The reason the Republicans are not in favor of this disaster relief bill is because it is full of useless pork that has NOTHING to do with disaster relief! The only party looking out for the taxpayers is the Republican party and this so called "disaster relief" bill proves it!