Doug Robinson: Utahn's tragedies, Newtown show 'lost balance'

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  • ML1776 SLC/SL, UT
    Dec. 20, 2012 7:45 p.m.

    Why do we need reporters soap boxing their slant on anything? It's a known fact they print what they are told. I can guarantee you the Communist agenda being shoved down our throats is not the answer.
    A nut job uses an object to cause harm and we focus on the object. REALLY. If that makes sense lets ban Suburu's . It's not the nut job driving it's the car. Let's ban cutlery, axes, lawn mowers and yes large soda drinks and salt. We know where you are coming from.
    Thanks for your shallow drivel DOUGy But it's not your fault; it's the key board's.

  • brian timothy Lehi, UT
    Dec. 18, 2012 5:16 p.m.

    old school says: "Maybe it's time we get serious about locking up dangerous individuals". I don't know numbers but many of the mass shootings are done by those with serious mental illness. Is the answer,then, to put the mentally ill in with the criminal element? ... after a shooting incident. Or do you lock up those with mental illness who have aggressive thoughts? Or just the mentally ill who are suspected of displaying some kind of odd behavior?

    There are thousands upon thousands of mentally ill people who are homeless or live by themselves or in apartments with others or with families ... maybe just a few doors down, and the perfect storm hasn't gathered itself enough to influence a paranoid schizophrenic who hasn't even been identified ... by anyone.

    I'm not so sure (well I am so sure) that its not an easy answer. How much responsibility does a paranoid schizophrenic - or one with PTSD, have for their behavior. I don't think the answer about responsibility is quite so cut and dried. Anger towards that population is far too swift and self righteous. "We've met the enemy and it is us"

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    Dec. 18, 2012 9:04 a.m.

    Don't blame this on "the liberal crowd".
    WE only want personal responsibility for gun owners.

    And to those who claim that "another gun in the bar would have saved lives: -- remember Tucson, two years ago, when Gabby Giffords was shot and many killed?
    There were several concealed weapons carriers in that crowd, and NONE of them stepped up to save a life. They ran away.

    PLUS....if you take out a gun, you just become "a second shooter".

    Don't let your testosterone do your thinking for you.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 18, 2012 8:38 a.m.

    Go to the Salt Lake Tribune's website and find Val Bagley's cartoon from yesterday. It perfectly nails a large part of the problems we face.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Dec. 18, 2012 7:11 a.m.

    Sorry Doug, I do remember shooting at dinosaurs in Jurrasic Park with large capacity shotguns. Don't know if they killed any but the got shot at.

    Sad what has happened to Joel. A properly trained concealed carry permit holder in that bar might have saved his brothers life. Again, the gun wasn't at fault. The person firing it was.

  • oldschool Farmington, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 11:38 p.m.

    I heard on the radio yesterday that more lives have been saved by ordinary citizens displaying or using guns in the few days since this tragic event that during it. I'm all for keeping guns out of the hands of mentally disturbed individuals who show antisocial behavior. But it's ridiculous to think that stopping law-abiding citizens from owning handguns will do anything to reduce crime. We already have thousands of gun control laws on the books. Maybe it's time we get serious about locking up dangerous individuals. People who are looking to commit mass murder gravitate toward so-called gun free zones, such as a schools and certain churches. It reminds me of a yard sign I saw in a photograph the other day. It said something such as, "Attention Burglars: This home is protected by owners who own and know how to use guns. The house to your left is owned by a family that does not own guns and do not believe in using them to protect life, liberty or property."

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 10:42 p.m.

    Don't try to slough this off on the 'hollywood people'. The violence you decry in contemporary movies sells well in the heartland, or they wouldn't make it. Same with the video games. Gotta hand it to the liberal crowd, they know what the audience wants and how to make a buck providing it to them. Good old capitalism. But, we're a sick society thinking we can just set everyone up to be able, capable and willing to kill one another and peace will ensue. But it sells well in the heartland.