Patriot, it is _exactly_ the kind of language you just used that causes people
to turn away from the GOP.President Reagan raised taxes, several
times, and that's a fact. Eisenhower was a huge believer in investing in
national infrastructure and public education. Even Nixon advocated for an
overhaul of American health care financing in ways that would make your head
spin.The Republicans once rejected the kind of grim, paranoid
generalizations that your comment represents. In the 1970's the GOP told
the Birchers to either get a grip on reality or take a hike. But now? Bottom line - the nation has _not_ moved to the left. It's still the same
mix of fiscal and social moderates that it has always been. Unfortunately, today's Republican party has allowed itself to be
dominated by a toxic blend of Wall Street greedheads and the religious
ultraconservatives, and the result is, as Jindal put it, "the dumb
party."Just _look_ at the last election cycle! Romney had to
run so hard to the right to get the nomination that even with SuperPACSs and
unemployment above 7% he couldn't get elected."Thought is
born of failure." Will the GOP start thinking?
the GOP doesn't have a leader and the America people have turned to
socialism so I don't see a good ending for this sinking country no matter
how you spin it.
It could be as simple as Republicans not having an substance behind their
talking points. In the election, Mitt Romney kept saying he had "big
plans" for jump starting the economy and creating jobs. But when pressed
for details, he was painfully silent.As they negotiate the fiscal
cliff, they assert generalities like "government spending is out of
control", "entitlements are killing us", and "we can fix this by
closing tax loopholes". Notice that they never give details. They say
"trust us" and the majority of Americans say "you've burned us
before".There was an excellent recent article titled "Why
Republicans Can't Propose Spending Cuts". The article notes "The
Bowles-Simpson plan wound up punting on all the major questions because it
simply couldn’t bridge that gulf between perception and reality."
Republicans think there are these giant pools of easily recovered wasted money,
when in fact there weren't any -- at least none that Republicans would
accept (defense cuts). Republicans will jump all over a 1 million dollar study
of fruit flys, but let's not discuss the 1.5 TRILLION dollar F-35 fighter.
Here's how we can tell about the Republican Party. If a GOP officeholder
speaks in a negative way about Rush Limbaugh one day, and is backtracking his
statement the following day, that means that 'ole Rushbo is still the guy
nominally in charge. And if THAT's the case, then the next batch of GOP
presidential wannabes will make Santorum and Bachmann seem like effete, liberal
snobs. They won't get a single electoral vote outside of Utah and the old
UTAH BillSalt Lake City, UT Agreed.There's an
old saying -- A fool will hang himself if given enough rope.The Democrats are just giving the Republicans all the rope they want.For example, You'll never hear the head of the DNC ever
trying to silence Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck -- they LOVE having
them running the GOP into the ground.Republicans on the other hand
ARE talking about how to shut them up.More rope, More rope...
Future course?Republicans don't understand the future. They
can only look back.And course? What course? They've been
wobbling all around the compass lately.
The Jindal quote is especially ironic. Jindal questioned the value of federal
earthquake research in his response to the State of the Union address, as if
improving the ability to predict and respond to natural disasters had no
conceivable benefit. Apparently he was unfamiliar with Hurricane Katrina.
Jindal also signed the misnamed Louisiana Science Education Act, which is a
mechanism to inject creationism into public school science curricula. If he
wants the GOP to raise its intellectual standards and stop insulting the
intelligence of voters, perhaps he should start at home.Republicans
have made a cottage industry of making willful ignorance a status symbol, from
Santorum's "what a snob" remark to its embrace of bad science
(Bachmann and vaccines, climate change denialism, rape biology, intelligent
I really respect Mr Pignanelli (a Democrat) for pointing out that currently
Republicans are the party of solutions and ideas. Unless you think "cash for
clunkers" was a brilliant idea you may want to stop the chest-thumping and
do some thinking about the future if you're a Democrat. I'm not sure
why they call themselves progressives because their ideology and game plans seem
to be preservation of the staus quo e.g. in education where as the first poster
advocated throwing more money at it as a solution. They're keen on 19th
century technologies like trains and windmills and preserving 20th century
social safety net programs that are bankrupting the nation. And as demonstrated
by Obamacare, tax and spend is still a basic tenet of Democrats in power.
Yes, Republicans have issues and they did lose the trust of fiscally minded
citizens in the Bush/ Trent Lott years and Romney definitely didn't go out
on a limb making a case for Big Economy Dynamism vs. Big Government sclerosis
but it's still surprising that the American people chose the stale
philosophy of socialism- lite. Oh well, we get the Government we deserve.
Something to consider: When was the last time you heard a Democrat complain
another Democrat was not "Liberal enough?" The Democrats have created
the Big Tent president Reagan used to talk about. They minimize attacks on each
other and don't threaten to yank support if one of their own fails to fully
toe the party line.It seems like every time Republicans get together
the first thing they do is determine where on the Conservative scale they fall
in relationship to each other. And, they weaken other Republicans with endless
arguments over who "true patriots" and "supporters of the
Constitution" are within the party or who signed pledges or not. Every
standard Republicans impose on other Republicans makes the tent smaller.
re: HutteriteWinner. Winner. Chicken Dinner.
Until they become a party of leadership again, punting the religious right and
tea party, they will become less and less relevant. The party of stupid comments
and candidates each election.
"Young people might just go Republican once they understand the incredible
mess big-spending Democrats are leaving for them."Seriously
doubt this. You also have to deal with the social and economic
issues which young people increasingly side non-republican on. Furthermore, this is one college student who has learned to think. Even if I
don't like the spending that the "evil Democrats" are doing, I know
enough history to know how the GOP isn't any better. I haven't
forgotten the President who repubs never refer to who was President between
Clinton and Obama. I know our biggest expenditure is defenses pending. I know
that when the GOP says "smaller government" they really mean fewer
social programs and safety nets but just the same/more wasteful programs to Big
Ag, Oil, corporations, and defense contractors. Who was the last GOP President
who balanced the budget? Will the GOP finally cut into their baby, defense
spending? So until the GOP becomes very much more liberal on social
issues and admits to taking (large) cuts into defense, the GOP won't be any
more attractive to young people regardless of what Democrats do.
When are Utah Republicans going to fund our Constitutionally mandated public
school system to a level where we aren't 51st in America in per-student