The GOP should cooperate with President Obama's election mandate

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  • Mister J Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 18, 2012 7:11 p.m.

    in regards to Mike Richards 7:16 a.m. Dec. 16, 2012

    60% + 47% < 100% but then I was never good at Conservative fuzzy math.

    Maybe, I missed that day at Glenn Beck U?

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Dec. 18, 2012 9:35 a.m.

    And the GOP offers no solutions.

    What loopholes do they want to eliminate? What programs are they willing to cut and how much?

    Of course, the GOP doesn't mention specifics, just complain.


    Time for you repubs to grow up. Seriously, GROW UP

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Dec. 17, 2012 5:55 p.m.

    LDS Liberal Bush won the electoral votes, Oboma could of had same thing happen. He won Florida fair and square and thing is why didn't Gore demand repeated recounts of every county. Inconsisten Bush won enough electoral votes to be president. One old man Hillary already served as president. I doubt she will even get the democratic nomination next time. If she does she will not win a third term as president.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 3:42 p.m.

    LDS Liberal....

    The taxes you are talking about is State tax on purchases. NOT ONE PENNY goes to the Federal Governement.

    when people talk about not paying taxes, they are not talking about State,County or City taxes.... they are talking about Federal Taxes... and yes, about 50 percent of Americans don't pay FEDERAL taxes... Why Not? should they not pay something for the services they get? Should not everyone bear the cost of a bloated government instead of just those that pay Federal, State, County and City taxes...

  • RAB Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 1:14 p.m.

    News Flash for Mr. Kusler: Obama was not the only one elected in Washington. Congress, along with all its Republicans, was ALSO ELECTED! They likewise have mandates from their constituencies to live up to the promises they made to their voters. The fact that Obama ignores this is just another example of his lack of leadership. He basically is saying “A weak majority of voters elected me, therefore the whole country wants you to ignore the promises you made to your constituencies and do everything I say.”

    Nobody voted for Obama for his woefully inadequate financial plan.

  • RedShirt USS Enterprise, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 12:09 p.m.

    To "LDS Liberal" do you have any other tactics besies name calling and Obama worship?

    What has Obama done that is different than Bush?

    You also miss the simple fact that spending under Bush was lower than unde Obama. Prior to Democrats controlling congress, we had low unemployment rates.

    What about the Wars that Obama has continued to fund, why do you no complain about those, why only care about Iraq (Bush signed the treaty to pull us out) and Afghanistan? Did you miss the recent headlines where we are now sending troops into the middle east to help our allies there defend themselves from the uprisings that Obama helped to fuel?

    Show some integrity and own up to the fact that Obama is nothing more than Bush on steroids.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 11:19 a.m.

    The only mandate in the Constitution is to "provide for the common defense". Everything else is left up to congress. I don't call Obama's win a mandate. I do call Ronald Reagan's win in 1980 a mandate. Same thing in 1984. A slightly more than 2 million vote win out of over 100 million. Not a mandate. It would have been a mandate if the Democrats would have taken the house.

    I also don't count the 39 seat difference in the House as a razor thin margin. The Senate 6 vote margin is razor thin margin.

    This guy is nothing but a Democrat schill.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    Fitness Freak
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Obviously the lamestream media...


    So easy to spot a ditto-head, Limbaugh listener.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    the middle calss pays a ZERO percent income tax rate. Is that really what you want the rich to pay?

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 9:44 a.m.

    Obviously the lamestream media has made the "millionaires" (and their taxes) an issue. THEY control the discussion.

    EXACTLY WHEN is Obama going to tell us what he wants to cut? Please tell us of the cuts next year, not 10 yrs. from now.

  • George Bronx, NY
    Dec. 17, 2012 9:17 a.m.

    @mike richards
    your right mike it is time for the top "earners to man up and stop demanding special treatment under the law. they need to pay the same tax rate I and the rest of the middle class pay.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 8:57 a.m.

    Mike Richards
    South Jordan, Utah
    Some posters tell us that they have no problem paying taxes and then tell Republicans that we are passing the buck. Doesn't their policy of NOT taxing the average person, but demanding those who already pay more than 80% of all government payments be taxed even more - so that they don't have to?


    Mike --

    When will you admit the EVERYONE pays taxes?
    Even the transiet who begs for a $1 on the street ends up paying taxes, even for the cup of coffee he spends it on.

    The issue of taxes going up is a GOP ruse.
    and it's only on earnings, capital gains and closing loopholes the rest of the 99% don't get.

    The taxes were and still are ALREADY at the higher rates for everybody,
    The Bush tax reduction was passed only as a temporary measure,
    so letting them lapse is not really a tax rate increase - but actually a returning to normal.

    You still never addressed how YOU intend to pay for YOUR Bush Wars.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Dec. 17, 2012 6:52 a.m.

    What election mandate? The result was close at best and neither candidate had the support of a majority of the qualified voters. Then again there is some doubt as to the validity of some results. Thirdly, as a GOP matter, the local parties "cast out of their society" that "heretic" Ron Paul with at times highly questionable tactics.

    My conclusion is that the integrity of the election is at least debateable, there is no clear consensus among the people and there are certainly no mandates of a partisan nature.

    With such a situation there should be a more accommodating approach from the current administration, the Democrat presidency as well as the Republican House.

    Both parties might consider following the Constitution of the Unites States and limit their scope of action to those constitutionally permissible. That would be a novelty!

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Dec. 16, 2012 9:25 p.m.

    Some posters tell us that they have no problem paying taxes and then tell Republicans that we are passing the buck. Doesn't their policy of NOT taxing the average person, but demanding those who already pay more than 80% of all government payments be taxed even more - so that they don't have to?

    Just who is passing the buck? Who is ignoring their personal responsibility to equally and completely fund all government spending? Who is pretending that they don't have an obligation if they can find a "rich guy" to carry their cross for them?

    America is the land of equal opportunity and of equal responsibility. Every citizen is responsible to pay for all government spending. Nothing in the Constitution allows one part of society to pass the buck to another segment of society.

    60% of the people have held up their hands and said "Enough already!". They think that they've been taxed too much. They think that they can't pay anymore. The problem is that they think that others should pay for them.

    Obama, enough is enough. We can't afford to pay for your programs.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Dec. 16, 2012 9:03 p.m.

    "Joe Blow, Obama lover"

    Sorry to disappoint, but no obama lover here.

    But, not an Obama Hater, and thats what really ticks off many.

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 6:12 p.m.

    If only the rich should pays taxes,

    then shouldn't only the rich enjoy the privileges of membership?

    And if you do not pay membership dues (taxes) what does this country owe you?

    It's hilarious how the left pats each other on the back for making such ridiculous statements, and seem to embrace tyranny when it is their side.

    There is no mandate,

    this is representative republic governed by a constitution built on checks ans balances

    and NOT a democracy.

  • Invisible Hand Provo, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 5:07 p.m.

    These calls for tax increases on only the wealthy ignore the real problem. It doesn't raise enough money to plug the hole in the budget and Democrats have NO plans for that. If they really wanted to fix the deficit by raising taxes then they should be honest and raise taxes on everyone. What they want is to pander to a majority that doesn't understand economics without solving any difficult problems.

  • DougS Oakley, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 3:27 p.m.

    Joe Blow, Obama lover... He did not win with a "mandate" If he had, he would have a democratically controlled house. l
    Besides, 50% of the eligible voters didn't even vote.. Stop taking pot shots at the messenger if you don't agree with what he said...

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 2:40 p.m.

    Salt Lake City, UT
    A 50%+ win in the popular vote is not a mandate.

    [How can you say that with any sort of straight face or ounce integrity after GW Bush was selected and never elected? -- seriously?!


    @J Thompson
    Maintaining and funding the military is an authorized duty of Congress, a duty that WE, THE PEOPLE have agreed to pay for.

    [I have no problem paying taxes to do so.
    The problem is that YOU the far-right don't have any intention to pay for your messes.

    The heart of the PROBLEM is Bush and the GOP started 2 wars, passed Medicare part D, never cut spending of any sort over 8 years, actually INCREASED it and refused to fund any of it, and then actually DECREASED the ability to do so.

    At least show some integrity and be consistant with your rants.]

    Speaking of 2 year olds Mike Richards --
    ...for complaining about Two-year-olds thinking...that somebody else will pay. Adults are expected to know costs ...and be "adult" enough to pay for what they demand.

    I think it's about high-time the GOP to grows up.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 2:35 p.m.

    It's going to be REALLY funny in four years to hear the anguished yowls of some folks when Hillary is elected as our next President.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    Tax and spend liberals (with the help of a bunch of Republicans) have successfully jacked up federal spending to the point that it is literally bankrupting the country. We spend twice as much as we did just a dozen years ago.

    Next they have successfully convinced a majority of Americans that our current crisis is equally caused by a lack of tax revenues as it is by runaway spending and that the only acceptable solution is a "balanced approach" where even more taxes must be collected.

    This is a big lie. Tax revenues are as high as ever. If federal spending was at the same levels as it was during Clinton's term, we would have big surpluses instead of record deficits. We must get spending under control, but Democrats are unwilling to budge on any meaningful spending cuts or entitlement reform.

    Piling on even more taxes to those who produce (they already pay more than their fair share) will eventually kill the goose with the golden eggs.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    Maintaining and funding the military is an authorized duty of Congress, a duty that WE, THE PEOPLE have agreed to pay for. We have given Congress the duty to declare war and have agreed to pay for the costs imposed by that duty. IF Congress decided to pass the buck by not taxing YOU and ME for costs incurred with the Military then IT has abdicated its duty, but neither YOU nor anyone else can pass the buck and tell us that only the RICH GUY has an obligation to pay for the military.

    Obama has no "mandate". He won the election by 9,000,000 FEWER votes than he received in 2008. That is not a mandate.

    He has taken an oath to perform the duties of his office. That oath includes the promise to defend the Constitution. He cannot defend the Constitution by taking money from his arch-enemy, the fictional "rich guy", and excusing the rest of the citizens from their responsibility to do their duty to pay for the authorized duties of Congress.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 11:42 a.m.

    A 50%+ win in the popular vote is not a mandate. If anything it is a call to move to the center. Mr. Obama's ambivalence in decrying the Chinese credit card used by Bush and then ignoring sovereign debt is troubling. He can no longer say, We won, get to the back of the bus.

  • Thinkin\' Man Rexburg, ID
    Dec. 16, 2012 11:41 a.m.

    The Republicans should do the will of those that elected them!

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 11:06 a.m.

    Wow, what a nice, sensible letter. I'm impressed, DN. Well done.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Dec. 16, 2012 10:13 a.m.

    "Adults should somehow be expected to associate cost with demands and they should be "adult" enough to pay for what they demand."

    Well Mike. Lets be consistent.

    When "we" made a decision to go to war, we increase our costs. Adults should have been "adult" enough to pay for what they demand" (cuts elsewhere or increase taxes)

    However, we decided to pass on the costs to the future generation.

    Is that any different than what you are now complaining about?

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Dec. 16, 2012 9:38 a.m.

    An election is not a mandate. Congress exists so the President does not have too much power. Marriage always has been between people of the opposite gender. So far in the United States the majority of states were it has been up to a vote voted to keep it that way. Some twice. Higher taxes on the wealthy mean they pass there higher cost onto the customer you and me.

    Because of checks and balances an election is not a mandate and one man does not have too much power. Were that the case it would be total disaster. There are some ideas of a president that fortunatly do not need to come to fruition or it would be damaging to the Republic.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Dec. 16, 2012 7:16 a.m.

    When 60% of the people yell at the top of their lungs that they can no longer afford Obama's bloated government, when 60% of the people tell us that they have no way to pay for his "free" programs, when 60% of the people jump on his class warfare wagon and demand that he pass the costs for his programs and policies on to someone else, then we know that America has lost it's way and that the "leader" has successfully turned us into a nation of crybabies who would rather rob someone else of their wealth than man up and pay for the programs that we DEMANDED from the Federal Government.

    Two-year-olds think that they can have everything and that somebody else will pay. Adults should somehow be expected to associate cost with demands and they should be "adult" enough to pay for what they demand.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Dec. 16, 2012 6:14 a.m.

    Well, if you dont believe that the election was a "mandate" (subjective) then how about recent polls that favor tax increases for the wealthy.

    It was more than 2 to 1 in favor of that.

    So, is the GOP more concerned about party ideology or the will of the people?

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Dec. 16, 2012 3:31 a.m.

    Re: "Every democracy needs a loyal opposition, and no one demands a Republican House majority that accedes to every wish of the White House."

    Except that's what Democrats ARE demanding.