Parents, stop the excuses and get involved in your child's life

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  • Homer1 MIDVALE, UT
    Dec. 9, 2012 10:54 p.m.

    Right here we see the problem of education in Utah. We search for people to "blame" for whatver we fear is our problem. It's the teachers, it's the kids, it's the video games, and according to this writer, the real problem are the parents. Yikes. That is quite bold to jsut lay it all on parents. The reality is that we the public all have a role to play and a responsiblity for the success of public education. I'm surprised how easily we turn on each other and attack and blame the ones who are actually doing the work with our children (parents, teachers, educators, alike) and miss the who really has the power and responsibility for the state of education in Utah today. The Utah Legislature has much to do with our current state and has much to do with changing things. As long as we have legislators who detest the notion of public education directly in charge of committees and agendas for Utah public education, we will continue to fall short. Tight money, large class sizes, legislation to privatize and voucherize public education, more unfunded mandates, testing testing testing are not parent-caused problems.

  • Demo Dave Holladay, UT
    Dec. 9, 2012 12:03 p.m.

    Society started down a bad road when we began rewarding chidren's althetic competitions with trophies for both teams regardless of who won or lost. Teaching every child that he/she is a winner even when they're not sends a mesage that there is no need to try harder or do better because they'll get a "trophy" either way. That's not real life and the world doesn't reward losers. We need to teach our children that their rewards in life, for the most part, will be proportional to their efforts toward success.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Dec. 9, 2012 10:10 a.m.

    Ok, we get it. You want to make clear you don't think teachers are in any way responsible for kids grades and parents are that NOT involved.

    Don't let logic and facts get in your way. Parents are getting the kid up, getting them to school, feeding them, housing them and making sure they do the homework. Taking care of the kid when they are sick and picking up homework from school so they don't get behind. Parents go to the games, plays and volunteer in the classrooms. All while working more hours than most teachers. I know because my Dad is a retired teacher. Home by 4 every day.

    But you want to give all parents a needless lecture for a few that are not AS involved for whatever reasons.

    Lame. If you are retaliating against all the criticism public schools and teachers have been getting you know where it comes from. Stop voting for republicans.

  • 1aggie SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 5:30 p.m.

    Our LDS culture pays lip service to the value of education but provides so many distractions and "awards" not related to intellectual endeavor that at times I've felt like I've been fighting against the culture (or certainly swimming against the current) in trying to keep my children focused on academics. My youngest was recently accepted to UC Berkeley engineering (rated #3 by US News) and chose it over BYU engineering (not even in the top 100), and people in our ward could not understand why he chose Berkeley. I can't believe how oblivious (and insensitive in their comments regarding his choice of Universities) many members are regarding the value of receiving a first-class education.
    If we do not sufficiently value and encourage academic achievement in our (church) culture, our children will not aspire to excel in academics.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Dec. 8, 2012 4:51 p.m.

    Most parents are actually involved so stop the lectures. If most parents didn't make their kids do homework it would never get done.

    Or do you really see 95% of homework never turned in?

    Being a teacher is a hard job, but don't blame 100% of parents for the 5% that don't care or disagree with you about something.

  • Coach P Provo, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 4:38 p.m.

    Liberal Today:

    I don't teach math :)

    I figured for the first semester there are 165 calendar days, yes including those weekends parent have them. Again, I might see them 45 days for two hours. My contact with them is again roughly over 25%. But then I see them 1.5 hours, slightly less on a normal school day actually. So right there I'm well under 2%. But then if they are absent, or if I have a sub it will actually be less, now approaching 1% most certainly. Then of course we have assembly schedules, half-days, etc. so that eats into the time. I feel I"m safely below 1% at that point but again like I said above, I don't teach math.

  • Liberal Today Murray, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 1:09 p.m.

    Coach P.

    You aren't really helping the teacher side when you throw out a number you haven't actually calculated. The real value is almost 2%, which is still minimal influence, but be careful with the math or you will have the masses singing it is all the incompetent teachers' fault.

  • Coach P Provo, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 11:59 a.m.

    The only thing I would disagree with one thing. As a secondary education teacher teaching in a block schedule if I teach a semester class I might see my students 45 times for 90 minutes. Best case I might see these students 70 hours for a semester over maybe a three month period. Bottom line, I'm sure that is way less than 1% of their life over that time span. While I may try my best to be the best teacher I can be, I'm not a miracle worker. The parents will be, for good or bad, the #1 influence in a parent's life including their education.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 10:22 a.m.

    Jim of Salem, you are one hundred percent correct!

    The problem with our schools is not the schools. The problem is the parents. We could put a $billion into the school system and nothing would change.

    And, by the way, that's why we are lagging in the tech and other areas compared to the rest of the world. Foreigners come here on visas, get an education, then move into high paying jobs both here and abroad while our kids sit home, watch TV, play video games, sext, join gangs and kill each other.

    @one old man:
    "May I nominate this letter as DN's letter of the year?"

    I second it.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 9:51 a.m.

    What can you expect?

    We, as a state, always have excuses to attempt to justify our shortcomings.

    How often has it been brought up that we rank dead last in per-pupil spending for education? Yet, we always seem to come up with excuses why.

    How often do we justify taking in more federal money than we contribute?

    On one hand we blame the federal government for everything and then make excuses to justify taking more and more (whether it be roads or mudslide cleanup. We're constantly making excuses to take more federal money).

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 9:07 a.m.

    May I nominate this letter as DN's letter of the year?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 8, 2012 8:10 a.m.

    It's true; we try to blame teachers when they don't get a lot to work with.