Immigration fiasco continues to complicate itself in political divide

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  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Dec. 9, 2012 9:13 p.m.

    "I think this high-tech visa issue is being used here as an excuse to once again push for 'comprehensive immigration reform,' which is a euphemism for granting illegal aliens amnesty or some other form of 'legalization.'"

    You got that right... Of course, comprehensive immigration reform is not needed when Obama can waive his hand and confer amnesty... which he did just before the election... to secure the Hispanic vote. Romney lost the Hispanic vote be declaring 'let them deport themselves.'

    "It remains true that the present laws need to be enforced."

    You'll never see that in a million years. The Hispanic vote has grown so large in this country that they can now basically control the outcome of our elections.

    The Republicans learnt the sad lesson that you don't threaten to deport no matter what... that is, if you hope to win another election. In essence, we have been invaded by a foreign country and not a single shot was fired.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Dec. 9, 2012 8:56 p.m.

    "It also makes little sense to educate such people in American universities, then send them home to compete against American companies."

    The answer is simple... quit educating them.

    After education they are free to stay or leave. If they stay, Americans get cut out of jobs the foreigner take. If they go home to their country of origin they compete with America. The answer is to stop educating them and concentrate on educating our own people.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Dec. 6, 2012 1:46 p.m.

    Comprehensive immigration reform did not solve the problem in 1986 or 1996. The laws passed in those two reforms have never been enforced. Only amnesty was.

    Comprehensive immigration reform does not solve the problem, enforcement of current laws is the only answer, and should be required for several years beform reform is discussed.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 6, 2012 6:40 a.m.

    Tea party types could keep illegals from coming here if they filled the same jobs that illegals do, with the same pride of workmanship that illegals do, and teach their children to do the same.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    Dec. 5, 2012 8:56 p.m.

    What's wrong with letting supply and demand for jobs control the number of overall work visas? If there is a real shortage, they'll come and we need them. We don't believe in centrally managed economies do we? And we certainly don't fear fair competition with laborers from elsewhere do we?

    Before there was a single illegal immigrant there was a recognition that the free flow of labor is good. We became the first offenders by calling a perfectly good policy of supply and demand illegal.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Dec. 5, 2012 1:20 p.m.

    Trying again. weird.

    If you go after the illegal employers there will be no problem. People aren't going to risk their lives for a Disneyland vacation.

  • donahoe NSL, UT
    Dec. 5, 2012 9:16 a.m.

    I authored an article in IEEE-USA Today’s Engineer in March that outlines why the claim of a scarcity of engineers is false. This misrepresentation is killing STEM interest in American students, not because they are lazy but because they are smart. I suggest you read my article and research the references provided. We must turn this around.

  • 1conservative WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Dec. 5, 2012 8:53 a.m.

    Most Americans have very little confidence a new bill would be enforced any better than the "old" bill.

    Lets make a deal with the politicians (and unethical/illegal employers; YOU GUYS make e-verify mandatory, with severe penalties for non-compliance. Arrest a few non-compliant employers. Illegal trespassers would, of course, deport themselves. It would cost very little to implement.

    THEN - come back and talk to us about a "new" immigration law.

    Of course this won't happen. Employers of illegal aliens have politicians in their back pocket. Its cheaper to "buy" politicians than to actually pay even minimum wages to illegal immigrants.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 5, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    We could have the tea partiers become border agents.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Dec. 5, 2012 8:22 a.m.

    Immigration reform is all about votes. It is always about rewarding illegal activity. It remains true that the persent laws need to be enforced.

  • wigglwagon Mariion, Va
    Dec. 5, 2012 5:05 a.m.

    "What Congress really needs to do, of course, is pass a comprehensive immigration bill that deals intelligently with illegal immigration, work visas and a host of issues, while allowing for more high-tech immigrants to feed growing industries."

    There is nothing intelligent about that statement. Inflating the supply of "high-tech immigrants" does nothing but drive down wages and deny jobs to American college graduates. Economics is not rocket science. It is supply and demand, that is if we do not allow the exploitive employers to manipulate the supply.

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 5, 2012 3:44 a.m.

    I think this high-tech visa issue is being used here as an excuse to once again push for "comprehensive immigration reform," which is a euphemism for granting illegal aliens amnesty or some other form of "legalization." As illegal aliens clearly demonstrate their contempt for this country and the principles upon which it was founded by their illegal presence here and lives of dishonesty toward their fellow man, while others around the world who DO love the country and embrace its values continue to respectfully wait in line, most Americans recognize the inherent immorality and unfairness of amnesty -- which is why amnesty routinely is disguised behind the euphemism, "Comprehensive Immigration Reform."