Low voter turnout: No presidential candidate on the ballot that represented liberty

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  • Riles Midway, UT
    Dec. 4, 2012 11:21 a.m.

    The GOP fumbled the ball at the convention by kicking the Paulistas in the teeth. The American people were given a virtual coin flip in the general election, so they just chose the candidate that promised them the most favors. As long as they think we're living in a democracy this trend will continue. The country will not become Mad Max any time soon, but the tipping point was crossed long ago, so we'll now witness the gradual decline of a once great beacon of liberty.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Dec. 3, 2012 12:19 p.m.

    Not voting is the dumbest thing a person can do. We may not have a leader that meets everything that you hope for, but by not voting you grant the political parties the ability to run on whatever platform the want. However, if people vote for the most liberal or conservative canidate available, then (hopefully) the next canidate will reflect the voting turnout.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Dec. 3, 2012 10:45 a.m.

    Agree 100% I didn't help the left/right oligarchy at all. I voted for Gary Johnson.

  • DougS Oakley, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 3:22 p.m.

    For one source, try NEWSMAX...

    Dec. 2, 2012 12:08 p.m.

    @ DougS:

    Sir you have put this out before. If you would like to back up your statement now would be a good time. So i guess what i am asking, is that if you would please post just where you got this info. So myself and the rest of the posters can check it out.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    I keep hearing stories about the 110% turnout in some places. But I haven't seen any credible sources given for any of those stories.

    Stories to that effect can be found on a large number of very questionable wing-nut websites, but have not been substantiated in any trustworthy places.

    If it was true, wouldn't the aggrieved political party be howling very loudly?

  • DougS Oakley, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 10:22 a.m.

    "low voter turnout"? Why there were counties in Ohio and Pennsylvania that had 110% of the registered voters voting!
    That was the problem in the recent election, not a plethora of choices.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    2 thoughts...

    Gary Johnson was on the ballot.

    Have you all never read the Libertarian platform?

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 9:50 a.m.

    First of all, I would suggest that being bombarded by political ads every time you turn on your TV set has to be something of a factor when it comes to low voter turnout. I can't tell you how many people I know who got so sick of the entire process they vowed never to vote again. And those ads just play to the worst instincts of mankind--trying to scare people into voting against the other guy. Disgusting. The Mia Love/Jim Matheson campaign exemplified the worst of it; by the end, I wanted both of them to lose. I think Mark B. above is also on to something; Republicans across the country tried to suppress voter turnout.
    But the ultra right values the writer wants parties to reflect were on the ballot. The Constitution Party ran a candidate. And he got about the number of votes he should have gotten, given his views.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Dec. 2, 2012 9:31 a.m.

    Gerald is theorizing, but it's no theory that one party did all it could in all the states it could to lower voter turnout. You make people stand in line for four or five hours or more at the polls, THEN produce an ID of some kind, and you'll get what you want - fewer votes.

  • SEY Sandy, UT
    Dec. 2, 2012 8:30 a.m.

    Exactly right, Gerald. That's precisely why I passed up on voting this year. P. J. O'Rourke also said it right with the title of his recent book Don't Vote: It Just Encourages [them].

    Defenders of voting support what is popularly known as "the two-party system." There are a growing number of citizens who look at what we have as no more than a one-party system that includes Republicans and Democrats. Their similarities far outnumber their differences, and they both favor an inexorable growth of government intrusion in our lives.

    Some blame the current economic malaise on "too much liberty," but the facts show that if existing laws and regulations had been followed, the housing crisis would never have occurred, at least to such a great extent. Those of us who champion liberty also expect government to do its duty in enforcing laws and upholding legal and constitutional contracts. That's what they failed to do.

    When we see a coalition of Americans who oppose the growing military-corporate empire, who reject the concept of "too big to fail," and who seek to dismantle crony-capitalism, then we'll see a genuine second party.