Brad Rock: Jimmermania still thriving in Utah, die-hard fans wont give it up

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  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Nov. 27, 2012 2:10 p.m.

    "...reclamation project". Extremely poor choice of words. It's great to have "Wally Cleaver" to cheer for. Much easier for me and many others who don't relish watching the "jeweled and tattoed".

  • BigRich Orem, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 1:54 p.m.

    So if Fredette is so bad, why all the attention and boos? If he's that bad, I would think the fans would be cheering for him to come in. The boos make no sense. They say more about the person booing than Fredette. Small minds do small things.

  • RU Serious Washington, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 11:16 p.m.

    just stating obvious facts my friend. I hope "average" doesn't have to be "regurgitated" again. I love the Jazz. Didn't finish we'll tonight. Asked Kings fans on a chat line during the game impressions of Fredette. Everybody likes him, and would like to see him more. I hope he gets a chance. Stay cool.

    Nov. 24, 2012 9:34 p.m.

    RU Serious - seems you read my posts less attentively than you watch Jazz games, or maybe it's the Kings games where your focus lags, or may just your specific attention to Jimmer. I never made any claim that Fredette is good, or that his defensive skills are good. I merely said they're no worse than many other NBA players, including many starters, including some of the Jazz players based on some pretty loose defense I've seen lately. I also said Jimmer's a train wreck slashing into the paint, and I think that's a bigger concern to anyone paying attention. His defense is not noticeably sub-par by average NBA standards. If you understand the word average, I wouldn't expect you to respond by saying how good I think Fredette is.

    I hope he does well too, but he's still got a lot of NBA growing to do.

  • RU Serious Washington, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 9:22 p.m.

    Love the Jazz. Fredette is over rated by people commenting on this article. Did you know that def. is different in the Pros. Geared to allow such actions in the lane so we can be entertained by above the rim skills. I am talking about his college days also. I guess debate is about RU Serious that a coach whose job relies on wins and losses would keep a player on the pine that is as good as you claim Fredette is? I don't think so. I hope he does well.

    Nov. 24, 2012 7:52 p.m.

    Did U Seriously watch the game?

    The Jazz scoring that brought them back was not done by players guarded by Fredette. Did you notice all the scoring by Kings in the first half, just running free down the lane, uncontested for basket after basket? Like I said, even average starters in the NBA are lousy at defense, and no better than Fredette. Bagging on him for poor defense is just the ignorant regurgitation of cliches because you can't come up with any original critique.

  • RU Serious Washington, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 5:06 p.m.

    No debate

    Fredette does not play defense. Ok he plays, but not even average. The man is a revolving door.

  • jhurst82 Holladay, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 12:38 p.m.

    Was Rock even at the game? Jimmer got booed every time he touched ball or came into the game. Yeah there were cheers when he made that 3 but just as many when he missed the free throw. Jazz fans did not show up to cheer Jimmer.

    Nov. 24, 2012 11:17 a.m.

    "Jimmer can't play defense" is used by ignorant viewers who regurgitate lame cliches to pretend they're as knowledgeable as pro scouts. I greatly tire of hearing it. Anyone who watched the game last night saw that Jimmer's defense is no worse than any average player, including starters. I highly doubt his defense impacts his playing time at all.

    His slashing to the interior, however, is always a train wreck. He seems to anticipate that the defense played on him will be similar to what he experienced in college. In several such attempts last night, he came away with zero baskets and was only fouled once.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 9:44 a.m.

    Lillard scored 28 points last night, just an FYI.

    As for the Jimmer? Fredette-about-it, it was the Golden Gord that came up clutch!

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Nov. 24, 2012 9:12 a.m.

    I think Jimmer's lack of playing time has more to do with Smart wanting to win games rather than develop Jimmer through playing time. Any coach would do that. They don't coach for the future, but the now. Winning keeps their job!

    In Jimmer's case, his defense and newness to the game still hampers his time on the floor. As he gets more used to the NBA, his time will go up. Smart knows this, and if you look at how the other two PGs (not counting Tyreke as one, which he really isn't) have performed this year, they're inconsistent.

    Isaiah's too small to be a perennial starting PG, and Brooks is pretty much what I expected, another backup quality PG, which is why they got him (and didn't stick with the last team). Both are quicker than Jimmer (so presumably better defense), but Jimmer shoots more consistently and I believe is much smarter game-wise. This will help Jimmer in time. If you've watched any of his minutes this year compared to last, he definitely looks more at home and capable.

    Nov. 24, 2012 8:27 a.m.

    Utah and BYU fans have several things in common.

    1. They love to hate each other.

    2. They love the State to look good


    3. They love the JAZZ. (we certainly have this in common - after all, Ute Red and BYU Blue do make Jazz Purple)

    As a BYU fan I cannot remember a Utah player that went into the NBA or NFL that I did not later cheer for. And I suspect the same is true of Jimmer for many Utes. He is now a product of the State and most of us would love to see him succeed.

  • Pa. Reader Harrisburg, PA
    Nov. 24, 2012 7:12 a.m.

    Why boo this guy?
    He's done everything asked if of him at every level of play. With his work ethic and skill set I wouldn't bet against him succeeding in the NBA.
    Count me among the Jimmer fans!