Thank you, Mitt Romney for running

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  • raybies Layton, UT
    Nov. 28, 2012 6:54 a.m.

    I'm glad Romney ran, it takes a lot of guts to get out there and stand up for what you believe is the best thing for a country like ours. Good for him, and may God continue to bless him.

    I may not agree with most of Obama's policies, but I feel the same way about him. He's doing his best, and our country's not an overly appreciative place.

    So thanks guys...

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 4:36 p.m.

    Sandy, UT

    Would you please use your own thoughts instead of the proganda machine of the Chicago politics that ran Obama campaign...

    they distorted, lied and twisted what Romeny was about....


    You really are Confused.

    You are kidding us, right?

    Mitt Romney was a caricature.
    He stood for nothing.

    The GOP ripped him to shreds during their own nomination process,
    Obama just stepped back and let the Flip-Flopper do the only thing he knew how.

    He himself, was all over the map.
    He was for this one day, against it the next.
    He showed no Integrity what-so-ever.

    53% of Americans could see through it,
    47% did not.

    The rest is history.

  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Nov. 26, 2012 9:39 a.m.


    Would you please use your own thoughts instead of the proganda machine of the Chicago politics that ran Obama campaign...

    they distorted, lied and twisted what Romeny was about....

    but then the left really has never been one to do their own research to come up with the truth either.

  • Utah Dem Ogden, UT
    Nov. 25, 2012 6:29 p.m.

    Sorry Mountainman you just cannot make up facts. Please see Furry1993's comment. Millions of us did not vote for Romney for many reasons - one being his lack of association with the truth; another being his statements on being on more than one side of any given issue - how would you know who you voted for? Why did he want to be part of the federal government when he has such disdain for the federal government?

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 10:44 p.m.

    @mountainman. A lot of people in Utah pay no income tax and voted for Romney. It doesn't take a CPA to know someone who makes 35k a year and has a stay at home wife with two kids doesn't pay any federal income taxes. My taxes help someone so their wife can stay home and that is okay in a lot of people's mind but if someone has fallen on hard times and needs some food stamps that is wrong.

    I'm sure some abuse the system but turning truly needy people away because of that is wrong in my opinion.

  • red state pride Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 7:50 p.m.

    @ Eric- really? what were the President's policies? The ACA that he signed but never mentioned during his campaign? The Lilly Ledbetter act aka "sue Walmart" act? 47 million Americans on food stamps (success or failure?) The Dodd-Frank "way too big to fail" legislation. What policies exactly do you refer to? Or maybe it was the way he he brought us all together by telling Americans to "vote for revenge" or the way his VP told a black group that "they going to put ya'll back in chains". Or maybe it was that slick pamphlet he finally released in the last 3 weeks of his campaign outlining his second term agenda that was oddly enough a regurgitation of his 2008 campaign. Oh yes indeed, the Obama campaign won the battle of ideas. What a sad state of affairs in America circa 2012- brokest nation in history with a President who had a slogan "forward!" Forward to what? The abyss?

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 24, 2012 5:21 p.m.

    @ Mad Hater. I completely disagree with your suggestion that redistribution of wealth happens in normal commerce or voluntary contribution to my church as you suggested. Re-distribution is when someone takes what you earned by force and gives it to others whom they deem more worthy to receive and you end up with nothing in return. Re-distribution is when one person gets nothing and the other person(s) get something for nothing! Normal commerce is when both persons benefit! If I steal your money, am a thief? What if I steal your money and give it to someone I think deserves it more than you, am I still a thief? So many takers and so few makers in this country and the national debt keeps going up so now the takers are stealing from our grandchildren! It has nothing to do with "compassion" for others, it all about controlling people and getting elected and it cannot be sustained because eventually, the government runs out of other people's money they can confiscate (re-distribute). Look at western Europe.. that's where we are headed!

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 3:45 p.m.

    Mountanman Hayden, ID

    Those who complain about others receiving "free stuff", whatever that is, don't like to acknowledge the "free stuff" they receive. The whole "income redistribution" ruse is directed at people these people don't like. It's that simple. If they were taxed for only those things they liked, from which they benefitted, there would be no complaint. However, if others benefit, they are up in arms complaining about "income redistribution".

    If you really consider how the economic system works, every purchase made, every tax dollar spent, every donation given, every gift given, is a form of "income redistribution. You give money to your church and that money is "redistributed" by the church. Similarly, money spent to purchase any item or service is "redistributed" to pay for costs and wages of the company providing the item or service.

    The whole reality of the complaint is nonsense. One might argue that a returned, wounded veteran receiving diability payments is one of the notorious 47% moocher class receiving "free stuff". Those who resent their "hard-earned" money taken from them to give "free" VA benefits to those wounded in war as the ultimate in hypocrasy.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    To Truthseeer 12:19 p.m. Nov. 24, 2012

    You said "Too bad Mitt wasn't more like his father." You're right. George Romney was an honest, honorable, rational man. Mitt was . . . well . . . Mitt. It's too bad Mitt couldn't be the man his father was.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Nov. 24, 2012 12:19 p.m.

    Too bad Mitt wasn't more like his father.

    “Dogmatic ideological parties tend to splinter the political and social fabric of a nation, lead to governmental crises and deadlocks, and stymie the compromises so often necessary to preserve freedom and achieve progress,” George Romney wrote, explaining why he didn't support Goldwater's candidacy.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 11:30 a.m.

    Losing Presidential candidates are not martyrs. Romney lost because the majority of the American people disagreed with his policies, and agreed with the policies of the President. Both sides engaged in negative campaigning, and both sides spent huge amounts of money. Ultimately, it came down to policy, and Governor Romney's policies were found wanting.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 24, 2012 11:25 a.m.

    @ Shaun. You are wrong. Do you really think people who pay no federal income taxes and the ever growing segment of the population that is getting free stuff would vote for Romney? Really? Romney lost because people who are not getting free stuff and still pay federal income taxes are now in the minority!

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 11:13 a.m.

    Romney owed allegiance no one other than the citizens of the US, not corporations, not unions, not personal enrichment, not any special interest group. Thanks Mitt for your personal sacrifice. You are a man of integrity and ahead of the times. Hopefully the country will learn something from the issues you raised. As time passes and jobs stagnate, entitlements ensconce a culture of dependence, our debt rises and crony capitalism rewards the in-crowd, the we will wish we had chosen differently.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 10:59 a.m.

    Mountainman and John spring your attitudes against the people who voted for Obama is the reason why republicans lost.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    I'm glad Mitt Romney ran also.
    Just proved an eternal priniple - Honesty is the best policy.
    ...and Flip-Flopping may win in business deals, but it looses elections.

    I guess it surprises Republicans that there are so many;

    Young People,
    Working Poor,
    and Scientists in America.

    Keep excluding them and it will never matter who the GOP nominates - they will loose everytime.
    [Remember when Michelle Bachmann and Donald Trump were leading Mitt Romney?]

    Like the GOP said itself in the analysis after the election --
    The GOP keeps getting older, whiteer, and more and more male.

    51% of America just can't be Archie Bunker.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington, DC
    Nov. 24, 2012 10:35 a.m.

    Romney agreed with Obama on the patriot act and NDAA. He was really a poor candidate. I personally saw no difference between him and Obama. They seemed to agree on everything. Their debates were poor. Romney was even talking about keeping provisions of Obamacare. It figures because he is that man who invented Obamacare in the first place.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 10:28 a.m.

    To Mountanman 9:11 a.m. Nov. 24, 2012

    None of what you allege is true or accurate. None of the things you mention are "free" to the recipients. The health care comes through paid-for insurance. No abortions are public-funded unless they are to preserve the life or health of the pregnant woman, if the pregnancy was the result of rape or incest, or there is a fatal fetal deormity (the same circumstances the LDS Church finds acceptable for abortion). There is a work requirement attendant to all unemployment insurance payments. Recipients of housing subsidies are required to pay their share. There is no amnesty for millions of illegals and, not being citizens, they are unable to vote. Student loans are not "free" - they have to be paid back. The people who do not pay net income taxes are senior citiens who paid their share through their lives and are now on social security, people serving in the military, and those who do not earn enough to pay net income taxes.

    Someone has really sold you a bill of goods. Real FACTS negate your allegations.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Nov. 24, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    " The decline in income concentration in the U.S. over the great recession was due to cyclical capital losses, not a structural change in the underlying factors driving the trend. This can be seen quite clearly by a) taking capital gains out of the income data, revealing a steady upward trend, or b) by noting the increase in inequality (share of income going to the top 10% of households) in 2010, a return to trend.

    - The fact that different countries hit by the same globalization and technology advances show different inequality trends suggests an important role for political economy -- policies that affect the distribution of market incomes -- in these outcomes. In France and Germany, for example, the top 10% holds about 35% of national income; in the US, it's about 50% .

    I think in an economy where a) inequality steers growth away from the broad middle, b) credit is cheap, under-regulated, and securitized such that there's distance between originator and final borrower, and c) as the boom progresses, risk become underpriced -- well, that's a recipe for the shampoo cycle (bubble, bust, repeat) with inequality at the core of the model."
    (Jared Berstein: Inequality and Budget Deficits)

  • Ralph West Jordan Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 9:43 a.m.

    As a 73 year old conervative who feels disenfranchised by the Republican Party, I am totally amazed that there are as many right wingers who didn't get the message of the last election, but then again I do live in Utah!

    First we had the Birthers, Rev. Wright, socialist, we"re going to be the next Greese, legitemate rape, endless gerrymandering, alledged voter fraud and voter suppression laws, now we are off on the 47% takers and free stuff , bought the election and on and on! All these endless diatribes will do nothing more than provide grease for the skids of Hillary's campaign in 2016.

    The Republican party literally needs to take a leaf from the Dems campaign plan and make some real "Change and Move Forward" .

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 9:18 a.m.

    More nonsense from JCS.

    There is no sensible way to reply to that. If we try, it simply feeds his paranoia.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 24, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    @ Utah Dem: You have to be kidding, right? How about "free" taxpayer subsidized health care insurance for millions (Obamacare),"free" taxpayer funded abortions on demand, all time record number of people on "free" food stamps, "free" contraceptives, "free" 11 months of unemployment checks with NO work requirements (what an incentive to look for a job),"free" housing subsides" "free" amnesty for millions of illegals (all of whom voted for Obama, go figure),hints of "free" student loans, and last but not least, "freedom" for about half the population from paying any federal income taxes?

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 9:07 a.m.


    Romney promised free stuff, but he promised it to those who don't need it. Romney promised 12 million jobs. So what. The experts estimated that no matter who became president, the economy, barring a major recession, would add 12 million jobs during the next four years. So Romney really went out on a limb there, didn't he. And if you knew anything about economics, you would understand the difference between our situation and Greece's. Get over it. Obama won. Thank goodness. Romney ran a campaign that appealed to rich old white men. He lost. Maybe now we can get down to some compromise in Washington in order to deal with our economic challanges.

  • John Charity Spring Back Home in Davis County, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 8:48 a.m.

    Mountanman is absolutely right. THe only reason Obama won is because he bought huge numbers of voters by promising to give them the hard earned money out of other people's pockets.

    Those who support Obama do so because they want to live off the hard work of others. They oppose the idea that a man must work to provide for himself and his family. Instead, they believe that they are entitled to have the government provide them with every want and need, simply because they exist.

    Obama has put this great nation on a course to becoming just another European-style socialistic welfare state. This is a recipe for complete disaster, which is why all truly patriotic Americans voted for Romney.

  • Utah Dem Ogden, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 8:38 a.m.

    Mountainman - I keep reading about free stuff - exactly what free stuff did Pres. Obama promise?

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Nov. 24, 2012 7:37 a.m.

    The headline right below the letter told the real truth. Romney lost because of a misguided campaign and his own misguided comments. Whether one believed in Romneys message or not once you listen to the debriefs Romney had a terrible campaign strategy and probably staff. Who thinks they can offend half of a voting population and then get 51% of the vote? You can believe in small government low taxes, the immorality or americans, the evil of the liberal press, bla, bla, bla..and you still can't think you can win a national election committing those errors. The irony is Romney was the business executive who was soundly organizationaly defeated by a community organizer. Shame shame shame.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Nov. 24, 2012 7:07 a.m.

    Romney promised more jobs and Obama promised more free stuff! 3.5 million more Americans voted for more free stuff than for jobs! America certainly isn't the country it used to be (fundamentally transformed). We deserve what's coming because there is no way we can afford all the free stuff! Mitt Romney was the last exit off the Obama highway to Greece!

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 24, 2012 6:54 a.m.

    I want to thank Barack Obama for running for President. He had to run in a difficult race against a dishonest man pushed by Republicans, a large number of wealthy special interests, Fox media and several AM radio “entertainers” who have forgotten what the Constitution and common American decency and fair play stand for.

    I totally agree with the real reasons why he lost. I feel bad that so many of our fellow Americans are becoming victims of a growing number of so-called conservatives who have forgotten how important it is that we keep America a land of opportunity for all Americans and not just a chosen, wealthy few. What we have witnessed recently at Hostess was just one more glaring example of Mitt’s vision for America. An America in which wealthy people use their power to push others down so they may send even more money and jobs overseas and stuff their foreign bank accounts to dodge taxes.

    I know I am not the only American who witnessed the worst example of human behavior that we ever had in the GOP debates leading to this last election.

    The silent majority did speak up.

  • Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 24, 2012 5:46 a.m.

    The silent majority did speak up - they just didn't agree with you.

    No one has forgotten what the Constitution means. Some people interpret it differently than the way you do. Even as the Constitution was being written, it was being interpreted differently by different people. That does not make some interpretations right and some wrong - it just makes them different.