Utah football: Utes still have some unfinished business to take care of in Boulder

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  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 2:08 p.m.

    Spokane Ute

    Short term memory loss there showing.

    There's very few fans that had any confidence in Jordan Wynn's comeback or shall we say 'staying' power. Without someone in the saddle that can run an offense a few good players still cannot pull off the impossible.

    The Utes were counting heavily on Star, White, Devonte, etc to do the impossible. A weak O-line and the list goes on. It wasn't that great of a combination of offense and defense. Some individual stars, sure, but it takes more than that.

    And BYU had the same problems.

    From the reports in fall camp there were mixed signals about the team, especially the O-line. Wynn was going to go down fast and when that happened it was just a prophetic demise from there on.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 11:58 a.m.

    I don't know about you all but I'm a regular poster who has posted regularly that I expect the Utes to have lots of 7-5, 6-6 and 5-7 seasons with the occasional 8-4 season (on a good year).

    I think this season is on the lower end of what one should expect of Utah in the PAC-12 going forward but 10 plus wins seasons I don't see in the works because of the quality of competition and the general direction I see with the Utes on the offensive side of the ball. I have also said over and over that Brian Johnson is a great football mind but at age 25 not ready to be an OC in a BCS caliber conference. I've also said over and that Whittingham made several mistakes in how he has handled the QB situation and the problems started with the handling of Loucks a few years back. The PAC-12 is QB driven league most certainly but it is a league that requires depth. The Utes are lacking...

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    "Utes still have some unfinished business to take care of in Boulder"

    Does it really matter whether Utah "avenges" a loss to a 10-loss team last year by beating a 10-loss team this year? There's absolutely nothing riding on this game and, frankly, nobody looking back on this season will care whether Utah finished 4-8 or 5-7, it'll be considered just as much a losing season either way.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2012 11:35 a.m.

    Lack of talent on the field is one thing, which will take time to build.

    But the lack of talent on the sidelines is inexcusable, that's on KW. Its been 4 years and we still don't have a legit OC.

    As of today it is obvious that Brian Johnson is not ready to lead a PAC-12 offense. I'm just hoping he proves me wrong next year.

    Go UTES!!

  • TheTruth801 SLC, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 10:28 a.m.

    To me it is funny that people in Utah now realize that the Pac 12 is a tough league. Fans here thought that the MWC was just as good as the then Pac 10. Really? What do you ahve to say now? From a Cali transplant. Oh yeah, my alma mater (UCLA) is playing for the conference title.

  • nothegame Saratoga Springs, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 10:15 a.m.

    I will not be surprised if they lose. They look like they haven't been tought to tackle. Play with no intensity at all.And Spokane Ute agree 100% with what you said.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 10:03 a.m.

    The Utes have found out that hard work and good coaching wins games, not hubris. They have marketed the PAC-12 as being great and assumed that would also make them great. It's much safer to celebrate victory after you've won, not before.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Nov. 23, 2012 10:02 a.m.


    Utah has CHOSEN to play Montana State, Northern Colorado, and Weber State in each of its first three seasons in the PAC 12.

    BYU was more or less forced to schedule Idaho, Weber State, New Mexico State, and Idaho State in its first two seasons as an Independent just to fill its schedule on short notice.

    Going forward, BYU's schedule will be filled with a mix of top teams like Notre Dame, Texas, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Michigan, very good teams like Boise State, Georgia Tech and West Virginia, and other teams that could be very good or very bad like Middle Tennesse State, Hawaii, and UNLV.

    NOBODY, not even the big boys, plays an entire schedule of Top 25 teams.

    Teams that are serious about getting into the upcoming playoffs, will challenge themselves by intentionally scheduling tough OCC opponents. Teams that are simply trying to qualify for a bowl, will schedule OOC cupcakes to have a couple of automatic wins.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Nov. 23, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    "Utes still have some unfinished business to take care of in Boulder"

    I have seen every Utah game this year. Their business is so done already, they should have a going out of business sale. Start by liquidating most of the coaching staff. Should sell off the arrogance and pride for pennies on the dollar and invest in some humility and work ethic. Maybe then the Utes will get back to the business that is Football.

    Don't be surprised if Colorado takes them again this year.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 9:19 a.m.

    Spokane Ute

    Actually, quite a few of us saw this coming, especially when Kyle neglected recruiting quality QBs in a QB dominated league.

    How many recruiting classes did we see loaded with outstanding defensive lineman, while Kyle seemed more interested in recruiting QBs who could play defense, than QBs who could direct an offense?

    The dearth of talent at QB became excruciatingly clear when Norm Chow became Utah's OC and had a near panic attack at the bare QB cupboard he discovered when he arrived. Having to sign and then play a D-II transfer that wouldn't have even been available if his former team hadn't dropped football shows just how desperate Chow was for a backup QB.

  • TheNun Granstville, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 9:16 a.m.


    The part you are missing in the two scenarios is; as part of a conference Utah's game against Colorado comes as part of the conference schedule.

    byu, on the other hand, CHOOSES to play Idaho,Weber State,New Mexico State, Idaho State, Middle Tennessee State, Georgia Tech, etc. They get to choose who is put on their schedule, while teams affiliated with a conference play the teams the conference lays out for them on the dates and times they mandate.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Nov. 23, 2012 8:59 a.m.

    @ esquire

    You use the term "most of us" very loosely. The majority of Utah, and college football, fans in general didn't see this coming.

    Every program has an off year, I hope this is an isolated case and not the norm going forward. Waaaay too much talent to finish with 4 to 5 wins; regardless of how tough the conference and schedule was.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 23, 2012 8:41 a.m.

    It's easier to criticize after the season. The utes aren't as bad as the record shows.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 8:06 a.m.

    Most of us predicted how Colorado and Utah would fare in the Pac-12....

  • iNKSpot Wilsonville, OR
    Nov. 23, 2012 5:45 a.m.

    Coach Willingham must be thrilled to have he Colorado Cupcakes on the Utes' schedule instead of those bowl-bound, in-state rivals that do not build the program!

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2012 2:43 a.m.

    "Most frustrating season as coach" says Kyle Whittingham. Yeah, it has been his worst season as coach as well. Forget the PAC 12 conference schedule, if you watched this team play, Utah left countless opportunities on the field.

    Whittingham going to Travis Wilson too early in the season was costly @UCLA and Oregon State. I hope Wilson does turn out to be the QB of the future now or that would be three watsed season on QBs. Wynn had no arm strength for the last two years, yet he got the reps and starts when available.

    Utah had WRs who could stretch the field and they were wasted relative to their talents and eligibility.

    The 4th down fakes when you have the lead and the momentum vs. Arizona in the second half were highly questionable. Have you lost your team coach? where were the traditional effort your teams display?

    The failure of the offensive line to produce in September cost Utah the USU game. Hays came in when Utah was down 13-0 and sent the game to overtime. Hays was your guy coach. You gave up on him. Utah took him for granted. He was a tough leader.