To one old man 8:50 p.m. Nov. 22, 2012Your description of your
activities also describes my husband and me (we are both in our 60s). You said:"But what passes for conservatism now is beyond
sensibility. Instead, people who post as "conservatives" here spend a
lot of words condemning others who disagree with them, often in seemingly
hateful ways. Instead of honoring work and honesty, they rationalize the kind of
treatment handed to workers by executives in places like Hostess Brands.Perhaps all those things are part of the new conservative values we hear
about but no one seems able to define."I absoluely agree. That
is why I am infinitely grateful that this country didn't have Romney
inflicted on it - by his own words on several instances, he agrees with the
attitude you described. For the most part (and yes there are exceptions) the
47% vilified by so many "conservatives" are honest, honorable, moral,
hardworking people who for no fault of their own are not in better
circumstances. For the most part (and yes there are exceptions) they do not
deserve the condemnation they receive. And it's sad that they unjustly
receive the condemnation.
Actually, Clarissa, if you knew me I think you'd see that I'm really a
very basically conservative person. I am very pro-life. I do believe in taxing
citizens as lightly as possible and spending our money very cautiously and
wisely.But I'm afraid that my kind of conservatism is almost
dead. I'm one of the old fashioned ones who still believes in honesty and
fair play. I believe that when someone gives his word, he is bound by it. I do
believe in hard work. I've worked all my life beginning at about age
twelve. I volunteer at several organizations. I donate as much as I possibly
can to charities like Primary Children's Hospital and several others.But what passes for conservatism now is beyond sensibility. Instead,
people who post as "conservatives" here spend a lot of words condemning
others who disagree with them, often in seemingly hateful ways. Instead of
honoring work and honesty, they rationalize the kind of treatment handed to
workers by executives in places like Hostess Brands.Perhaps all
those things are part of the new conservative values we hear about but no one
seems able to define.
re: Mike Richards 10:18 a.m. Nov. 22MR mentioning his parents and
their 'attitude of gratitude' is a great mind set. Too many people IMO
are far to self-absorbed and need split-second instant gratification Granted my raison d'etre & MO (sarcasm) is flawed but I'm only
human. I am no better or worse than anyone and my goal is to do better today
than I did yesterday. Happy Thansgiving all
Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Even those who believe those principles have been distorted must acknowledge the
basic framework that continues to guide all political subdivisions and that
protects basic freedoms and rights. QUOTEThis statement
bothers me; it seems to suggest that it is an extreme position to see distortion
of founding principles in the way we have been persuaded to view the
Constitution. With a truly great patriot I would agree that America has:"apostatized in various degrees from different Constitutional
principles".. Ezra Taft Benson,In Conference Report October 1987. Sometimes the Constitution has been blatantly disregarded. The murder of
Joseph Smith and his brother Hyrum by an armed mob, and the failure of the
government to either prevent, acknowledge its criminality, or punish it has been
referenced thus:"innocent blood on the banner of liberty, and on
the magna charta of the United States"...(Doctrine and Covenants
135: 7)What else is the "magna charta of the United States",
if it is not the Constitution thereof?
There is no longer any freedom and liberty. I've lost every freedom and
liberty I've ever had since Nov 2008.
Today is a day for giving thanks. Today is a day to look at the world through
rose colored glasses. Today is the day to enjoy being with family and friends.
Our dinner table will be surrounded with thirty people, some are family and some
have no family. Today, we adopted them.Good people are good all the
time. They don't ignore the hungry, the poor, the homeless just because
some people think that government should handle those tasks. They open their
hearts and their homes whenever their is a need and they don't count the
dollars.I personally know one of the posters. He's beginning to
get old. He walks with a cane or a walker. None of that stops him from helping
others. I seen him work for hours without being paid and then slip a $100 bill
in the purse of someone who was down and out. He could get medical help, but he
doesn't want to abuse his insurance.I'm truly thankful for
people like him who make a difference in the world. I hope there are many more
like him who quietly go about doing good.
Patriot is right when he writes: "This country was not created by cowards or
by selfish "what I can get for free" type people."I just
wonder if he is referring to people like the overpaid executives who drove
Hostess Brands into failure while trying to force workers to accept pay cuts?
(A story is that is not unique to Hostess, but has played out in countless other
places in our nation.)
I can see that 'one old man' appears to have a strong bias against
conservatives. Any political party can have compassionate people in it. Notice
that I didn't even use the words liberal or conservative. It appears that
'one old man' demonizes others himself. Well, I hope he has a happy
Thanksgiving regardless of his opinions.
No question I love this country's past however I can't feel the same
way about the present or future of America. The great founders of this country
would be ashamed of what America has fallen to especially with the re-election
of a socialist president and the abandonment of many of our founding
principles...freedom, small government, hard work and personal responsibility.
JFK said at his inauguration "ask not what your country can do for you but
what you can do for your country". What a great statement from a great
leader!! Too bad that statement has now been changed and re-phrased by a much
lesser Obama to say "ask not what you can do for your country but what your
government can give you for free". The future of this country
is bleak especially if the people continue to follow socialism and atheism and
abandon the principles of the constitution and capitalism that made us great.This country was not created by cowards or by selfish "what I can
get for free" type people. I pray for America to succeed - but NOT for
Barack Obama to succeed. The two are opposites.
Miss Teaching -- I suggest you go back and read again what I wrote. I
don't want us to go off the "fiscal cliff," but at the same time, I
do believe that compassion is missing in too many people who fall into the
"conservative" side of our political mess.We need to work
together in a spirit of cooperation -- and compassion -- but the current
mean-spirited rants of a few are preventing that from happening.There are some Americans -- but very few, really -- who may actually qualify
as parasites. But for people to vilify all others for selfish reasons is simply
wrong.Keep smiling and be safe.
How sad that 'one old man' believes that all people who are not in the
47% believe just unkind things about those people. As a person with Multiple
Sclerosis, I am happy that we have such programs for people who truly need them.
I was able to teach for 25 years with the disease, but it was extremely
difficult. I know that God blessed me to do so. I do believe that if a person
does truly need help that they should, if possible, work in some manner. There
are so many volunteer activities. Why not help out at their local schools? They
certainly need it. Now, I know that everyone can't do that particular
activity, but I spend as much time as I have energy to help with children who
are struggling with reading, volunteering to help people with their businesses,
and other opportunities. I that God that I can do these things. People in this
country to help each other, if possible, and try not to rely on the government
so much before we eventually go off the 'fiscal cliff.'
After reading so many hateful and downright vicious comments here recently, I
wonder how many of those writing the comments know what "Thankful"
means?I would never wish ill upon another person, but think that if
God were to slap some of them with a sudden calamity -- an illness for which an
insurance company refuses to pay, a terrible accident that puts a loved one at
death's door with not enough money to pay for treatment or long term
disability, the loss of a once secure job along with its benefits and promised
retirement, or any of thousands of other terrible things that have happened to
so many people THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN -- we would suddenly see some very
humble people apologizing to those they demonize.Perhaps, if those
who post hateful things here about "parasites," could suddenly be forced
by circumstance to become "parasites" themselves, their harsh lesson
could benefit all of us if they suddenly became one of the hated 47%.I'm sure regular readers of DN will recognize by their screen names at
least some of those to whom I refer here.Now, let's give thanks
before we go shopping.
As a former farmer, I watched as my parents started each day thanking God for
the opportunity to work and then asked him to bless the efforts of their work,
to send enough rain and enough sunshine and not too much wind so that the crops
and the animals could grow. Each evening they spent twice as much time thanking
God for the blessings they had received that day.They had the
"attitude of gratitude". They knew that they were powerless to put life
into a single blade of grass just as they knew that our herd of cattle would
need to eat millions of blades of grass every day. They were not so proud or so
arrogant that they supposed that they had created anything on their own. One day a year is not too much to give thanks to the giver of life and
to appreciate his confidence in each of us that we will leave the world a better
place than we found it.With his help, we will not let him down.
Fact: It doesn't take a belief in God to have a thankful heart. It
doesn't require belief in a higher power to understand that hard work and
effort only go so far. Atheists, agnostics, and those who simply don't
care one way or the other are just as likey to have a thankful heart on this
day. Thankfullness is a wonerful and healing quality, it just doesn't
require religious belief..it only requires humility.