Utah Utes football notebook: Senior QB Jon Hays set to complete 'crazy' career at Utah

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  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 23, 2012 3:26 a.m.

    Wow sammyg, I agree with you 100%! Was that take really you?

    It's hard to say what would have happened with Hays as the starter, but he very well could have given Utah a good chance against Arizona, UCLA, and Oregon State. But that said, Utah never really gave Hays a chance to do anything other than be a game manager.

    Being a game manager made sense last year, but come the Sun Bowl, Hays was able to sling it and sling it well. He always threw a great deep ball. This year, Utah still never let him read defenses though. It was run the ball, dink and dunk, or play action and throw it deep.

    However, even if Hyas played that role again (game manager), it might have worked after September when Utah's offensive line began to gel and John white IV got healthy. But a part of me thinks no, because it's hard to win low scoring games in the PAC 12. Utah needed to be less conservative, and try to put up points.

  • Proud Ute ,
    Nov. 22, 2012 1:17 p.m.

    @William Wallace
    Well said.

    Best of luck to Jon in his future endeavors.
    He is a true competitor and a class act.
    Thanks Jon for representing us so well.
    Go Utes!

  • William Wallace OGDEN, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    Jon Hayes is a great competitor and did great last year. It's easy to second guess now, but a coach has the opportunity to watch every snap and every play in practice. For us to second guess now is a little "BYU-esque". Ute fans are usually better than that. I'm a true Ute fan, and will just continue to cheer for Coach Whittingham and the rest of the Utes. Wilson has done a good job this year, and could have a couple more wins if not for some timely, unfortunate drops. It's not one person's fault. You win as a team, and lose as a team. Good luck to Jon Hayes, who will no doubt be a great coach, and will use the experiences he's had to get better. Go Utes!! Go Aggies!!!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 9:46 a.m.

    The only thing 'crazy' about Jon's legacy is why Whit and company didn't use him more this season.

    I had respect for this kid when several Ute fans were on the bus driving over him last year and everyone was slobbering over themselves with Wilson this year in fall camp.

    We all had a feeling that Wynn was not going to make it.

    He was the only experienced D-1 QB when Whit gambled the season away by throwing Wilson into the mix. Several said Jon was not a 'D-1 QB' and that Wilson was their guy during fall camp. It was a pathetic show of gratitude to a kid that had earned his stripes.

    He saved the bacon in 2011 and now the program is paying the ultimate non-post season price in 2012 for Wilson's learning curve. I'm sure it's a fine line and tough decision for a coach to make but...

    Not that I really care about a Ute season but Jon could very well have tipped the season for the Utes.

    I thought he did a great job under the circumstances. Too bad he was not given the 2012 reins.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 12:47 a.m.

    Hays definitely made the most out of his time at Utah. He was a great competitor and got the Utes through some difficult times each time Wynn went down.

    I wish Jon the best in whatever he does from here. He got to compete at a very high level in the PAC12 and he got a free education in he process.

    I'm not sure Utah would have won either of those first two road games with Hays starting instead of Wilson but I did think it was odd timing to start a true freshmen on the road instead of the more experienced QB - hopefully that will pay off next year for Wilson. Wilson has improved each game he has started in, I thought they should have just slowly given him more and more playing time instead of throwing him in as a starter. All that being said, I thought Hays handled the situation very well and showed some great leadership by helping Wilson make the transition into he starting role.

    Hopefully the Utes can take care of business on Friday so hat Hays can get a few more snaps as a Ute.

    Go Utes!

  • Utes Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 10:49 p.m.

    To go from a program that dropped football, to starting in the pac-12 under legendary offensive coordinator Norm Chow, and winning with a few super passes in the Sun Bowl, Hays definitely has a great story to tell for the rest of his life. Few people get "rags to riches" opportunities like Hays has.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2012 7:35 p.m.

    Hays should have started the season as the starter and gotten all the fall reps. Utah's investment in Wynn the last couple of seasons since Wynn lost his arm strength cost Utah dearly. The WRs that Utah has had were capable of stretching the field but they weren't given the chance. Then when Hays came in after Wynn went down, Utah was behind 13-0 to USU. Hays took the game to overtime (outscoring USU 20-7 in that span, only to lose on a offensive pass interference call in overtime.

    Hays went on to beat BYU and should have stayed the starter when Whit went to Travis Wilson when Utah was aonly 0-2 in conference. By that time, the offensive line had overcome the poor play of September and John White IV was getting healthy. Utah played well enough to have had a chance to beat UCLA and Oregon State except for Travis Wilson's lack of seasoning to give Utah a chance.

    Thank you John Hays for your super attitude and for being a great teammate. You were tough and always dusted yourself off from hard circumstances. I won't forget the sacrifices you made for the Utes.