Dick Harmon: BYU football: Faith, hard work boost quarterback Taysom Hill's recovery from injury

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  • William Wallace OGDEN, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 2:17 p.m.

    Good guess Duckhunter. No other screen names, just this. Because you comment more than anyone doesn't make you right, but keep thinking that. I just state my opinion. I don't claim it's right or wrong, but glad you do. Exposed!! Classy.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 1:11 p.m.

    @william wallace

    You've never been a BYU fan and you are only here using another of 100 different screen names to post lame things like that post. Exposed.

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    Nov. 23, 2012 12:35 p.m.

    I think it humorous that the little brothers from up north must comment here because they have nothing positive from their own world.

    If U haven't figured it out yet - THE PAC LET YOU IN SO THEY COULD HAVE A PLAY OFF. They let U and CU in because they expected just what they got - expanded size and no threat to the establish dominion.

    I'm not about to tout BYU this year, but I find it very funny that U just cannot leave it alone.

  • William Wallace OGDEN, UT
    Nov. 23, 2012 11:09 a.m.

    Hey JayDee, I just hope Hill starts out well, because it won't take the BYU fans long to jump off the "Taysom Hill" bandwagon, just like Heaps, and just like Riley. I disagree with your statement about the "vitriolic" comments from the Ute fans, great word by the way. Ute fans tend to respond with somewhat less mordancy in my opinion, but it is just my opinion. I hope James Lark can be the savior that the fans are now saying he'll be in your last couple games. Look out Riley, the bus is fast approaching. Thanks for being a great student-athlete, and for giving your all. As a Ute/Aggie fan, I've always respected your passion for the game.

  • BYU DUDE Provo, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 7:31 p.m.

    Now all BYU needs is a Head Coach , Offensive cordinator , and Offensive line Coach and we wil be cooking with Gas.

  • 86&90UTE Holladay, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 5:00 p.m.

    I hope for Hill's sake, he will make a full recovery. It doesn't really matter which play he was injured on. The fact is, if Doman keeps running the QB 20 times a game, Hill won't last many games next season. Hope your second and third string QBs can play. Also, I might be a little worried about starting a Soph QB with only two starts against BYU's improved schedule next year. Could be a long season. Travis Wilson may not do any better, but I like the game experience he's getting this season (sorry Jon Hayes).

  • GTwo Rockledge, FL
    Nov. 22, 2012 3:19 p.m.

    I really think Hill's injury is nigh unto unforgivable for Doman. That play should have never even been an option for that series. We need a different OC and QB coach.

    I am grateful Taysom is healing and has a good attitude. I pray he will be stronger than ever and not injury prone due to this incident. He is a good young man and I hope he gets to play out his dream.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Nov. 22, 2012 12:23 p.m.

    To Henry Drummond, it is good to see a Ute fan with some class. And a little reminder to chris b.: those undefeated seasons came in the MWC, which, with the exception of TCU, was just the old WAC, the same one BYU played in 1984. I think just about every WAC team could give this year's MWC, as well as the U of U, a tough battle on any given Saturday.

  • JayDee West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    @ Braveheart aka William Wallace

    The motto and character talk come from the team and coaches, not the fans. Of course, fans like players with good character. Riley has usually played well against lesser competition. For whatever reason, partially coaching, Jake Heaps couldn't get the job done at BYU. He chose to transfer instead of redshirting. Lack of point production and one of BYU's worst offenses is "someone's fault", perhaps QB play, injured O-line, and coach mismanagement. The most casual observer knows that Riley's competitiveness (playing injured) and Bronco's loyalty-to-a-fault cost BYU three games. Isn't the point of the game to win with players that give you the best chance to do just that. Why shouldn't fans hope things change for the better? If you're so sick of the comments...and I see no posts on this article that are so outrageous as to draw your venom...don't read and you'll feel better. Peruse ANY U articles and you'll find many trashing their team, QB, and OC with more vitriol.

    Here's to two more great games and a better 2013 with Hill at the helm!

  • Pack Layton, Utah
    Nov. 22, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    Some of you fans who are always after Doman, remember there is a learning curve for offensive coordinators. I guess the same learning curve should apply to fans, but it is obvious that many fans don't know enough about football and coaching to have a learning curve.

  • William Wallace OGDEN, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 10:53 a.m.

    It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the BYU fans are going to trash their own. This Band of Brothers motto and all the talk about character is simply senseless chatter. I remember reading the comments last year after Riley pulled out the win vs. the Ags. He was your "saviour" of the program, since wonderboy Jake Heaps, whom you all bragged about, turned out to be a flop. Here we go again. Now you'll trash Doman and Riley. Why don't you rally around your team, all of them, and just be good people. Riley is competitor, who transferred to what he thought was a "better" program and "better" people, only to find the worst fans in the world. Just be good fans, and root for your team. It's not always someone's fault. It makes me sick to read your comments. Utah went with a new quarterback too, but you don't read the Ute fans ripping on Jon Hayes. Accept the fact that BYU football isn't what it once was, and focus on being positive in the re-building process. I used to cheer for BYU, but you fans drove me away. Pathetic!!!

  • vesparider Pocatello, ID
    Nov. 22, 2012 10:16 a.m.

    Taysom's a great kid. He used to come in for lunch once a week to my deli here in Pocatello. Nice, humble and respectful. Not something I can say for all highschool kids. He definately earned my respect and admiration and Pocatello is rooting for him to succeed while at BYU.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    Goll Taysom sounds neat. He'll be as good at Riley maybe.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 7:59 a.m.

    Thank you so much for the update on this fine young QB. We look forward to being able to see him play again!

    I wonder if our OC will still be around next season is a plausible question.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 4:08 a.m.

    "This puts us back into starting Juniors and Seniors, instead of Freshman"

    That is unless Doman is still the OC and burning through QB's faster than my cellphone battery burns through it's charge.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Nov. 22, 2012 12:18 a.m.


    Good post. I agree with you about the importance of getting back to starting Junior and Senior Quarterbacks. However, I don't foresee Hill being challenged by either Munns, Olsen or Green. Munns and Olsen will likely replace Lark in the consummate back-up. And until Green is on campus and competing with Division 1A talent he's an unknown. Don't forget we had a highly touted high school quarterback from Washington that transferred to Kansas and couldn't get it done while at the Y. Kuresa has been playing wide-out the whole season, and doesn't seem to fit into the QB picture. Unless, that is, Bronco decides to go with another underdog ala Riley.


    As for Munns see above comment, and I sincerely hope that we don't have to rely on a JC transfer quarterback. All we have to do is look to the North to see how that worked out this year.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 10:32 p.m.


    "With the very serious nature of Hill's injury and a long and arduous rehab,"

    You obviously didn't bother reading the article which said that Hill's injury was not as serious as initially diagnosed, that he's recovering faster than expected, and that he could be ready for limited, non-contact practice by the time Spring Football Practice begins.

  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 10:00 p.m.

    With the very serious nature of Hill's injury and a long and arduous rehab,

    Hill may not even play next season,

    Look for Munns to be the starting QB when the season opens.

    (Or perhaps a yet to be determined JC QB ala Sarkisian?)

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 21, 2012 9:13 p.m.

    OCoug - You are leaving out a talented Billy Green in the QB rotation.

    2013 - Hill, Munns, Olsen, Green (redshirt)
    2014 - Hill, Olsen, Green
    2015 - Hill, Green, Mangum (Redshirt), Kuresa
    2016 - Green, Mangum, Kuresa
    2017 - Green, Mangum
    2018 - Mangum
    2019 - Mangum

    This puts us back into starting Juniors and Seniors, instead of Freshman.

  • OCoug Ogden, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 8:37 p.m.

    Good article. Hopefully, Hill can come back and start next season. It would line up nicely with Tanner Mangum's mission return. Mangum could redshirt during Hill's Senior year, learn the ropes and battle for the starting job with four years of eligibility remaining.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2012 7:56 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar

    The WAC? That was nearly 20 years ago man. In that span, Utah has beaten BYU 13 out of 20.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2012 7:52 p.m.


    You need a hug. Hate is not the BYU way brother.

  • Hegdehog Bountiful, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 7:44 p.m.

    "The over-hyped, full-of-themselves, conference bottom-dwelling Utes and their fans will home for the holidays watching the BYU and Utah State bowl games from the comfort of their parent's couch in the basement."

    Hey Chris B, you can come over to my house to watch the Poinsettia Bowl since you won't have anything to do.

  • JayDee West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 6:19 p.m.

    Best of luck to Taysom in his continued recovery.

    If anything has (hopefully) been learned by the coaches it's that a healthy and talented QB is essential to put points on the board. I agree that in spite of Taysom's huge upside, Riley may still have played just as many games. If Lark doesn't start Saturday, the fan mutiny that is simmering may boil.

    BTW, Chris B. You state..."And how did we [Utah] get in the Pac 12? We earned it, largely by going undefeated twice, going to a BCS game twice, winning a BCS game twice, and finishing in the top 5 in the country, twice."

    (Something else you've done TWICE, consecutively, is finish in the bottom half of the PAC.)

    Explain how the CO Buffs earned their invite before U with their football resume'.

    Everyone knows it was to save face from the BIG 12 big four saying no. Add in TV sets and sprinkle a dash of religious bias exclusivity. There's your real answer.

    Keep clinging to those two BCS bowl wins, hug your PAC 12 banner, and keep warm during the upcoming cold and lonely bowl season.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 21, 2012 5:39 p.m.

    With all of the unhappiness about Riley, imagine the tumult if Hill were healthy and standing on the sidelines.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Nov. 21, 2012 5:17 p.m.


    So does that mean if we don't join a real conference, you'll quit talking?


  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 21, 2012 5:01 p.m.


    Do you honestly feel the utes would have played to within three points of the number one team in college football? Be real! BYU is the University of Utah.

    Nuff said.

    Nov. 21, 2012 4:50 p.m.

    byu fans,

    Join a real conference, then we'll talk. Playing 4 of the worst teams in D-1 football (Weber State, Hawaii, Idaho, New Mexico State---really?) to pad your record after you annually lose to decent teams doesn't cut it.

  • bribri86 Phoenix, AZ
    Nov. 21, 2012 4:48 p.m.

    You're right Chris B, all of the Ute success was in the PAST. How is Utah doing now? How about that bowl game you're going to? The prestigious PAC-12 Conference which you will not win now or in the forseeable future. This year, of all years, Ute fans should be very grateful Bronco can't pick a good Quarterback to run the program.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 4:10 p.m.

    Chris B,

    How many WAC championships has the U won? How can you expect the U to suddenly start winning a conference championship in the PAC if you struggled so much in the WAC?

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2012 3:56 p.m.

    The injury to Hill was unfortunate. I would think if healthy, he would start next year given Mangum is on a mission.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Nov. 21, 2012 3:47 p.m.

    I'm a Ute fan but I did enjoy watching Taysom Hill in the little time he had to play. Here's hoping for a fast recovery.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 21, 2012 3:04 p.m.

    Great news. After this frustrating season it is good to get something positive.

  • CT98 Saint George, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 2:53 p.m.

    Great news for Taysom and all Cougar Nation. Can't wait to see Taysom play next year. Finally a QB who can both run and more importantly Pass the football.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Nov. 21, 2012 2:49 p.m.

    @cb - Did you read this article? Your comments have nothing to do with the article, as usual. But I will respond to two of your comments. Who is the only AQ conference not to win a national championship in the BCS era? It's time to face the music, the PAC has not been pretigious the past 15 years. However, to the PACs credit, they were greatly improved this year, which is why I believe Utah will not finish in the upper half of the conference for the next decade. If Utah is going to be great, they need to create their own identity by winning. Same for BYU.

    As for Tayson, I truly hope he is ready for Spring ball. His ability to lead and work with the team from April - August will be crucial for next years success.

    I also hope that if Doman is still around, he and Dupaix will realize we cannot find the success we are looking for by running the QB 20 times a game. This is not BYU football, it is Air Force, Georgia Tech and Navy football. Otherwise we will always have injured QBs just like this year.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 21, 2012 2:28 p.m.

    Chris B,

    "we'll just never know who the best WAC team really is'.

    We do know who the worse team in the PAC is. You know, the team who couldn't compete in the WAC a few years ago.

  • Uncle Rico Sandy, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 2:06 p.m.

    Thanks to brandon Doman for making this story possible.

  • EMBO23 Riverton, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 1:37 p.m.

    Taysom went to BYU because he was inspired to do so. Not Stanford, not Utah, but BYU. There is more to life than just sports, and that probably dawned on him when he was serving his mission.

    Not being in a conference is a bit frustrating, especially since the Utes will win twice as many Rose Bowls as the University of Arizona. Now that Utah is in the Conference of Champions, there will hardly be enough room in the rafters of the Huntsman Center for all their banners.

  • Robroy Murray, utah
    Nov. 21, 2012 1:29 p.m.

    Pregious pac12??? It's pathetic 12 and please learn to spell.

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2012 1:07 p.m.


    If Doman is allowed to continue as BYU's OC, he owes it to Hill to spend every second from now until BYU's first game in 2013 designing and learning how to coach a passing offense.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Nov. 21, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    Chris B

    "The WAC really needs a championship game."

    Unfortunately for U, you are WINLESS in the WAC and were eliminated from contention in early September.

    The WAC champion is ranked and will be playing in a bowl.

    The over-hyped, full-of-themselves, conference bottom-dwelling Utes and their fans will home for the holidays watching the BYU and Utah State bowl games from the comfort of their parent's couch in the basement.


  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 12:49 p.m.

    I understand that injuries are inevitable in football, at the same time the risks increase with certain systems, strategies and play calling. I have noticed that Hill was almost no different from Nelson in their urge and penchant for running than passing. Hill by the way is a lot better in both than Nelson. Then again who is not better than Riley at this stage of his unproductive career? Anyway, I feel that the vulnerabilities and injuries of Hill and Nelson are results of the radical Doman system favoring the option and quarterback scrambles/runs than pocket and drop back passing. The pattern/system should be looked at and evaluated in a serious way. I hope Hill will pass the ball and run only as a last resort or a designed once every eight downs by a new Offensive Coach. Hill is a good and fast runner and can win lots of games for the Cougars, but the risks of injury increase fourfold too when running on every other down. Wishing him fast recovery and a great season next year!

  • Bear Somewhere, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 12:47 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    Every conference needs a bottom dweller for the big time teams to beat up on.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Nov. 21, 2012 12:32 p.m.

    Glad to see Taysom making significant recovery. This kid has a bright future in football and beyond.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 12:24 p.m.


    The large difference being Utah is in the Pregious Pac 12 Conference, not the WAC.

    And how did we get in the Pac 12?

    We earned it, largely by going undefeated twice, going to a BCS game twice, winning a BCS game twice, and finishing in the top 5 in the country, twice.

    All in the past decade.

  • MizzouBlue Carthage, MO
    Nov. 21, 2012 12:23 p.m.

    My prayer is for your speedy and complete recovery Tayson. Best of luck. BYU needs you at the helm next year. Happy Thanksgiving.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 12:22 p.m.

    Great news. Great that a young man can recover quickly from his injuries and proceed with his dreams. A lot of BYU faithful are looking forward to 2013 as Hill's year. (and beyond)

  • burtro15 CEDAR CITY, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    Utah State beat Utah so we should probably put the Utes into the equation.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 11:46 a.m.

    The WAC really needs a championship game. With byu beating Utah State, Utah State beating San Jose, and San Jose beating byu, we'll just never know who the best WAC team really is.

    I wonder what Taysom thinks when he sees his former Cardinal teammates beating Oregon and heading to the Rose Bowl, and his current teammates getting worked by San Jose.


  • BigCougFan Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 11:43 a.m.

    Can't wait to see you in a game again Taysom!