Brad Rock: Utah Utes need more of what they've got, must improve depth for upcoming seasons

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  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Nov. 20, 2012 8:20 a.m.

    Funny but whittingham was all but deity for utah "fans" a meer 3 months ago. Being compared to meyer, saban, etc. I can go back and get the quotes. wilson was also being lauded as the "best qb in the state" and an emerging superstar. Once again those posts are there, we can read them.


  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Nov. 19, 2012 5:24 a.m.

    Good posts and good points. But while I feel that the coaching staff has more than enough ability to make good players competitive and even coach up mediocre players into talented contributors, I simply saw too many instances this season of the Utes not having the speed, talent or toughness to hang with opponents such as USC, Washington and Arizona. The players from these teams simply looked bigger, quicker and more able to make plays. I'll give you a good example. Count the number of times that Ute players caught the ball and turned up the field, eluding a defender, to turn a short gain into a big one. Hint--you probably won't be needing both hands and you certainly won't need your toes. Complain about a frosh QB all you like, but at the beginning of the season, we were told that there was real depth at the position and that Travis Wilson was right in the mix for the starting position and actually pushing Jordan Wynn. Sad to say--Mr. Blechen and Mr. Christopher displayed lousy leadership and this team was sunk before the season began.

  • ModerateBob Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2012 10:24 p.m.

    Welcome to our new reality. A good season will be 7-5 or 8-4 or 9-3 will be a great season, and 10+ wins will be a magical season.

    6-6 will be average, and we should expect a losing season with a freshman QB.

    None of this is surprising, and we should all get used to it.

    Nov. 18, 2012 6:52 p.m.

    AVUte, I agree with you to an extent, but USC is as much an example of the need for depth as any team. Their scholarship limitations, combined with a lot of injuries this year, has done more to their season than coaching inconsistencies. In one sense, it did allow Morgan Breslin to break out as a truly dominant defensive lineman, but as a team, their depth at corner (biggest necessity in the Pac-12), defensive tackle and offensive line has been exposed in all of their losses, and runningback would have been possibly their biggest issue had they not lucked into the arrival of Silas Redd.

    But you are right, Whit, BJ and Sitake have been far from perfect this year, and better coaching probably would have won us the Utah State, UCLA, Washington and Arizona games, and maybe USC, but on a list of immediate priorities, I think depth is more of a key issue, and will be crucial in the next 2-3 years to address to hope to be a consistently successful team in this conference and nationally.

  • AntelopeValleyUte Palmdale, CA
    Nov. 18, 2012 6:17 p.m.

    While I agree with most of the postings, depth would certainly help all mentioned teams. Coaching IMO, is key and the difference between Ws and Ls. You can have all the depth on any team, but if you can't coach, depth won't mean nothing, and talent would only get you so far. Hence, USC. They have a ton of talent and have the highest rated recruiting class in the nation going to USC next year, and IMO, should have won the PAC-12 South and gone to the PAC-12 championship game this year. But because of coaching, that is not happening. IMO, Kiffin is a good coach, not a great coach. He is equivalent to Whittingham, but not an Urban Meyer, a Nick Saban, or a Les Miles. Those guys are on another level. Next year, USC can probably make to the PAC-12 and Rose Bowl on talent, but great coaching won't get them there. And IMO, Whitt's coaching might only get Utah so far. Go UTES!

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Nov. 18, 2012 12:03 p.m.

    I really don't think many Utah fans want to go back to playing meaningless games against mostly hapless opponents. I believe if the fan base sticks by their team the wins will come and they will be a true measure of achievement.

  • 007 Layton, UT
    Nov. 18, 2012 11:49 a.m.

    Hmmm... more talent..? YES, that's ingenious! Why didn't anyone think of that sooner? Problem solved!

  • Dunedain PROVO, UT
    Nov. 18, 2012 9:55 a.m.

    After seeing the pathetic seasons that both BYU and Utah have had I just can't help but wonder what it could have been. I have to believe that BYU, Utah, TCU, and Boise State league has the inside track to a BCS bowl each year from the None-AQ in the current format and in the new format they are miles ahead of any other conferences to get a spot in one of those bowls. Maybe on a magical year one of those teams makes it into the playoff. I wish everyone would have just stayed put... Oh well. Sorry about the bad year utes. BYU is going bowling but after our loss to SJSU last night it doesn't feel like we deserve to be.