Republicans must seek remedy for poor outreach to Hispanics

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  • Confused Sandy, UT
    Nov. 21, 2012 9:29 a.m.

    Just curious about how many of the Latino's voters this year were actually "legal" to vote?

    Sorry, but I think anyone that violates the laws of the land should be punished, wheather it robbing a bank or coming into our country illegally...

  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 20, 2012 9:45 a.m.

    The problem is not a lack of love on the part of Republicans toward Latinos. The problem, instead, if we are to believe Ms. Quesada, is a lack of love on the part of many Latinos for the United States. The utter contempt for this nation, its sovereignty, its constitution, its borders and its laws, on the part of Ms. Quesada and apparently many others, is unmistakable.

    Ms. Quesada speaks of the American Dream. She understands nothing concerning it. The fruits of this nation -- which she and others like her and illegal aliens enjoy so much, and feel entitled to -- do not exist independent of those principles. Instead they are the result of FIDELITY to those principles. Prominent among these principles is respect for the rule of law.

    The problem is not Republicans. The problem instead is the flagrantly anti-American assertion that the United States should surrender its values -- indeed its very sovereignty -- for the so-called "Latino vote." Doing so would undermine the unity, integrity, and well-being of the nation.

    The solution is for the Latino culture in America to assimilate to American culture -- by wholeheartedly adopting the principles and values upon which this nation was built.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 10:11 p.m.

    "For decades, Hispanic leaders have warned of the consequences of rejecting the legitimacy of the children and parents who have come to reside, work and contribute..."

    America accepts those who come here through the proper application of immigration law. America rejects those who don't.

    "After the election, the Republicans... are still hesitant to allow the injection of life-saving, strength-giving transfusion — immigration simplification, amnesty...

    Reagan tried that in 1986 and what did it get us? Floods of more illegal immigrants looking for the same.

    "We oppose illegal immigration and all forms of amnesty, or legal status, for illegal immigrants."

    We support legal immigration and immigrants who value and adhere to our laws.

    "We support suspending automatic U.S. citizenship to children born to illegal immigrant parents..."

    Bring forth your 'illegal' children. Fill out the proper papers... and get in line. Stop hiding in the bushes.

    "And it came as a surprise that Latinos didn't feel the love from the Republican Party?"

    How can you be loved when you support disregarding our national laws? A nation whose immigration laws are ignored ceases to be a sovereign nation.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 5:18 p.m.

    Today's Republicans would listen to a Republican who had 1. given amnesty to "illegals" and 2. raised taxes numerous times? Whatever you say.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 4:18 p.m.

    Wonder, I was talking about Reagan and amnesty???

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 3:38 p.m.

    @RichardB -- No, Reagan would not be welcome. He raised taxes when he had to (several times). That would never fly with the tea party fanatics today. Today's Rs would not add $1 of taxes to reduce the deficit even if they could get $10 worth of spending cuts in return. It's 100% of what they want or nothing. So, no, Reagan's compromises would be totally unacceptable today. Don't kid yourself.

  • VIDAR Murray, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 2:42 p.m.

    I have no problem with someone who wants to work and take care of their family.
    We are a nation of immigrants; the solution is to make it quicker, and easier to obtain citizenship.
    Mexicans are not the cause of all the problems in this country.
    They did not force people to buy bigger homes then they could afford, and the bankers to give these people loans.
    They did not cause the price of oil and gasoline to go up.
    They did not start two unfunded wars in the middle east.
    Mexicans are used as scapegoats by republicans to distract us from the real issues.
    The way republicans talk the biggest problem in this country is illegal immigration
    I disagree

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 12:48 p.m.

    They should open a branch office in Mexico City and send to Romney for more photo opportunities.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 9:20 a.m.

    "Reagan would not be welcome today in the GOP"

    The bill was bi-partisan. Reagan admitted it was a big mistake in his memoirs. He signed it for the enforcement part of the bill. The one that was never enforced. America is still waiting for it and the 1996 promises.

    300,000 that became almost 3 million taught us a lesson. Never again.

    He learned his lesson, and would never sign another one. He would be more than welcome, as he could tell us what went wrong and why we should avoid the same mistake.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Nov. 19, 2012 8:56 a.m.

    "he would of been eligible for the 1986 amnesty"

    Yes. The Amnesty signed by Ronald Reagan which affected millions.

    Reagan would not be welcome today in the GOP.

  • RichardB Murray, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 8:26 a.m.

    JoeBlow, he would of been eligible for the 1986 amnesty.

    I know many people that have had to pull up roots and move elsewhere in this economy.

  • Mike in Sandy Sandy, UT
    Nov. 19, 2012 7:53 a.m.

    JUST Hispanics?
    What about women, the elderly, small business owners, middle-sized business owners, students, retirees, single parents, lower-class, middle-class, much of the so-called upper-class, gays, people with pre-existing medical conditions....

    Gaining the trust of JUST the Hispanic demographic is woefully short-sighted.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Nov. 19, 2012 6:10 a.m.

    Always the black and white.

    Look. I get it. Someone sneaks across the border today to pick lettuce? Catch them and haul them back. I can understand that.

    Now, lets look at reality.

    18 year old guy comes across the border in 1980 to pick lettuce. Over time, buys a house and cars. Maybe starts a business. Brings his girlfriend to the US. Starts a family.

    So, now the guy is 50 years old, with extended family all around.

    And the GOP wants him to either "self-deport" or label him as a criminal.

    Can you honestly say that the reasonable solution is to deport this person and family?

    One size DOES NOT fit all.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Nov. 18, 2012 11:01 p.m.

    Republicans don't understand that it's not just some legal matter to many Hispanics.

    When you say you oppose "illegal immigration" and no citizenship for babies born here you are talking about their own beloved family members being sent out of the US in many cases to countries they have no memory of or have never been to. Just banish them to the wilderness?? Sounds like the Christian thing to do...

    Can we send YOUR mother to mexico if I pass a law that says so? Hey, not just your mother, 10 or twenty of your closest family and friends?

    It's the law, sorry buddy. We have to follow the law.

    And if you don't want to forget history you may want to read up of the Treaty of Guadalupe and how we forced Mexico to sell half it's country at gunpoint. "the halls of Montezuma". President Polk wanted the whole country of Mexico...There's no statute of limitations on stealing continents BTW, but were lucky Mexico has been so forgiving about it. We could be fighting like Israel and Palestine.

  • wrz Ogden, UT
    Nov. 18, 2012 9:51 p.m.

    "The problem is 'how do you put hatred back into the bag?'"

    It's not hatred. What it is is, obedience to the laws of the land... specifically immigration laws. A country without immigration laws, or who refuses to enforce immigration laws is no country at all.

    "Once you've allowed the narrative to spill out that you despise a large segment of society..."

    Those people are not despised... any more than any other law breaker is despised. Immigrants who do it right and come here legally are not despised but loved and accepted.

    "If that is the route the Republican Party wants to take... then there must be wholesale changes in leadership."

    The change will come as Hispanics continue to flood into this country when they recognize they will not be tossed out but will be given amnesty and citizenship. The change from English as the language of the US to Spanish.

  • No One Of Consequence West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 18, 2012 4:06 p.m.

    It is impossible to honestly appeal to a split community. There are Hispanic people who support legal immigration and those who support illegal immigration. Which group do you suppose is voting Republican?

    Perhaps the increasing percentage of Hispanics voting Democratic reflects the influx of 'undocumented immigrants' who illegally vote, and their US-born children who legally vote.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2012 8:46 a.m.

    Probably easier to close it down and start the Hannity-Limbaugh-remains of tea party radical conservative party. The new Independent party can lose the extremists.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 18, 2012 8:24 a.m.

    The problem is "how do you put hatred back into the bag?" Once you've allowed the narrative to spill out that you despise a large segment of society, how to convince the nation that "we were just kidding"? If that is the route the Republican Party wants to take (and there is still great doubt about that), then there must be wholesale changes in leadership.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Nov. 18, 2012 7:51 a.m.

    When we forget the past, we are doomed to relive it. Nations, in the Americas, have disappeared when they rejected law. We have their histories. We know their outcome.

    We have laws to protect the citizens and those who hope to become citizens. Keeping those laws protects everyone. Selling integrity for a vote shows contempt for the law and for the people who are used as pawns to get office for that candidate.

    Republicans respect the law. Republicans respect citizens and those who hope to become citizens. Those who reject law may feel more comfortable in another political party.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Nov. 18, 2012 3:18 a.m.

    Wow, can you say double standard!