Dinnertime Talk: Credit hours vs. competency debate continues

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  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    Nov. 15, 2012 9:55 p.m.

    The Deseret News should be paid for promoting all this anti-education "stink" tank propaganda.

    An education is only the beginning. That's why doctors work as residents before they are allowed to practice on their own.

    But education costs money and there is money to be made by mining public education funds for private profit.

    A friend of mine recently graduated from a for-profit university. Only problem is that the university is headquartered in a neighboring state and the school's program, although locally situated, is not accredited in our state. Solution? She can move to the neighboring state, take the licensing examination, work there and then, move back. Meanwhile, her tuition costs were way above our excellent public universities and technical colleges.

  • junkgeek Agua Dulce, TX
    Nov. 15, 2012 6:24 a.m.

    I as an employer have no need for employees that don't like to expand their horizons or unnecessary things. In 20 years, I've found three people that succeeded without a college degree, and two of them were military.

  • SillyRabbit Layton, 00
    Nov. 14, 2012 5:36 p.m.

    "Is the traditional collegiate credit hour system broken?"

    -If desired end result is rote knowledge, no. If the desired end result is practical knowledge, maybe. If the desired end result is the stats that the 12-hour exam listed in the graphics measured, yes.

    “A college degree should signify a transformational process that results in a learned person, but that doesn't always happen. Why?”

    -If that was what the exam was measuring, what were some of the transformational-ness measuring questions? Was the exam administered previous to college entrance? Between what two points are you trying to measure in order to signify “transformational”?

    “What are possible solutions, alternatives?”

    -Formulate better measurements. If the college process is supposed to transform you into a thinking/working level human, not simply a “college graduate [who] could not perform basic tasks such as comparing opposing newspaper editorials or comparing the cost per ounce of different foods”, then find the baseline first.

    Need more data!

  • iscorefilm Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 5:11 p.m.

    Yes. So is making me take classes that have no benefit for my career or any of the skills I'm good at. I appreciate biology and mathematics but I have no need for them. I can work with music, computers, and a vast amount of other skills that I could easily develop further if necessary.

    But forcing me to follow a flawed system, pay for it, and spend years of time on it- is wrong.