'Falling in line' mentality is not a motivation to vote

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  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 9:57 p.m.

    Yes, no Hitler references please. While I agree that it probably feels like the pressure to belong to or vote for a certain party is intense, under Hitler it was more than intense. It was life and death. No dissent was allowed at all. We're no where near that! With respect to the comments about media, I don't watch MSNBC or Fox because I like more neutral news. I think NPR is very neutral. I think the main news outlets are generally neutral as well. I like to listen to partisans. in small doses -- like in a round table on Meet the Press or McLaughlin Group. More than that I can't take.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 4:46 p.m.

    This letter is by someone who voted her conscience, and did not vote with the majority party in the past election. That is to be applauded. I do wish however that she had not referenced Hitler. I have my disagreements with the Republican party in Utah. To compare current Republicans with Hitler, though, is as repugnant as it is preposterous. Could we please leave a mass murderer out of discussions of political differences?

  • Christian 24-7 Murray, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    NPR is funded by the government. Seems like that would make it pro big government. They will never bite the hand that feeds them.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 12:15 p.m.

    "...We need to question everything that politicians, television anchors and radio commentators say...".

    When a repub questions rush limbaugh's thinking, they end up clarifying what they meant to say.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 11:31 a.m.


    I was speaking in general terms, not about specific commentators on various stations.

    True, not everyone on MSNBC is a 100% liberal, just as not everyone on Fox News is a 100% conservative (Shepard Smith and Geraldo Rivera come to mind). But when you factor in these networks as a whole, I think it's fair to say MSNBC leans to the left while Fox News leans to the right. As for NPR, nearly all my friends and family who vote Democrat listen to NPR way more than they do Hannity, Limbaugh or Savage.

    I voted for Romney in this election, but I don't totally blame those who didn't fall in love with him or who felt he wasn't the best choice for President. I personally know a number of LDS people here in Utah who voted for Obama and for me to tell them they need to, "Stay in Line," is totally foolish.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 11:00 a.m.

    Since both the national parties are made up, owned and controlled by businessmen, I wonder what would happen if there was a box on the ballot labeled as the candidates with the best voting record and history for the general welfare of people.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Nov. 14, 2012 11:00 a.m.

    Twinlights..They aren't the same, nor did I say so. My point, and I think the only point I made aside from re-stating hippos thought, was that MSNBC is not the "far" left as a network. They do editorialize democratic positions, but those aren't even "far" left, historically. Raising taxes to 39% on incomes over $250,000 is a decrease of 12% to 22% compared to the Regan years. Obamacare is a rehash of the Repbulican proposal in the Clinton years..hardly "far" left. Can you find commentators on MSNBC that are more progressive sure, but they aren't the majority or the network.

    Love NPR. It's the only radio station I listen to and it's very much non partisan. It's only liberal bias is the liberal bias reality has.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 10:48 a.m.

    It means the moderator is savoring sour grapes and is playing more censor today than usual ---

    I'll try again....

    It Republicans and the straight party-line ideological purity is ripening for a Totalitarian state.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Nov. 14, 2012 8:55 a.m.


    Please don't put MSNBC and NPR on the same plane.

    To any reasonable person, MSNBC is a cheerleader for the left just a Fox is for the right.

    NPR, despite some more liberal leanings, is FAR more centrist and reliable as a news source.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 8:45 a.m.

    Thank you, Jacqueline, for having the courage to stand up to Utah's predominant party. I hope you can convince your neighbors to do the same next election cycle. Perhaps then, we'd have a chance to elect some legislators who are not beholden to the Eagle Forum or Big Business or ALEC.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Nov. 14, 2012 7:59 a.m.

    Mr. Hippo..the "far left" will never question MSNBC or NPR? So Joe Scarborough, Andrea Mitchell, and Chris Matthews are the far left? If that looks far left to you, I'd hang on to the railing real tight because you could fall off the edge real easy. In terms of perspective, the MSNBC view of the world just won the election with over 50% of the vote. How is that an edge..it looks like the middle to me.

  • higv Dietrich, ID
    Nov. 14, 2012 7:33 a.m.

    Using Hitler is an epithat to get a point across. People don't agree with everything nnsomeone says. However parties as a whole can get more done than individuals. That is why people vote for philosophy not person.

  • ClarkHippo Tooele, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 1:34 a.m.

    "As free-thinking people, it is important that we look at the issues — not the party. We need to question everything that politicians, television anchors and radio commentators say. We can have differences and still be friends. Our differences make us unique and our similarities make us united."

    That's all well and good, but sorry to say, the far-left and the far-right will both maintain the "my way or the highway" mentality while at the same time express the opinion that, "The only people who are open minded are those who agree with us."

    The far right will never question Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and Shawn Hannity, while the far-left will never question MSNBC, NPR or Joy Behar.

    Our differences do make us unique, but more and more, people will use their differences to build walls and create greater and greater intolerance in the name of political correctness.

    George Orwell's 1984 is become more and more prophetic.

    War is Peace

    Freedom is Slavery

    Ignorance is Strength