Scandal widens; U.S. general's emails 'flirtatious'

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  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 10:05 a.m.

    People with power as the various elected and military and civilian servants have can believe they are free from being caught or hide their activities so as not to be caught. Remember some of the spies for the other side that worked in our government for decades and gave information to the other side for those years and didn't get caught for most of those years? It happens and there is a process to help find those individuals. People bring up the past affairs of Presidents and Generals that may have not received judicial punishment. Over those decades the rules and regulations on conduct are more spelled out and with a penalty attached. These current Generals and Director of the CIA know those rules and the precaution to avoid potential conflicts with the rules.

    When you go to the Ethics training in the Department of Defense it is about fiduciary ethics and not general ethics and conflict of interests in contracting.

    Regulations dictate prohibitions and penalties in intelligence and security that can be severe, if discovered. These guys were discovered. They didn't come forward on their own. Secret Service agents learned from Presidents how to be caught.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 9:58 a.m.

    Whether this General had 100s or 1000s of e-mails with this lady is probably conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman. He is a commander of forces and has the responsibility to set the example. I bet he didn't tell his wife about all these various types of e-mails giving an intelligence officer in another country potential information about the General's whereabout and activities of the day, in any form or format. This is against rules and regulations, no matter how you spell it. When was the last time you wrote an unofficial letter to some lady that was not in the limelight in your wife's world?

    There are reasons for intelligence gathering purposes he should not be doing this type of e-mailing, whether through official or non-official channels. He has received training on the prohibition and the rationale and regulations over the past 40 years. he has punished people for this type of behavior as a commander or support officer over the years. He knows the implications of this type of activity, military and family.

    His aides must know about this type of behavior and fall under the UCMJ if violated those rules.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Nov. 14, 2012 9:43 a.m.

    This is just another example of the media doing everything they can to protect Obama from the bigger scandal--what happened in Benghazi?

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 8:43 a.m.

    "Petraeus and his family are devastated over the affair — especially Mrs. Petraeus, who 'is not exactly pleased right now' after 38 years of marriage . . ."

    Slight understatement about Mrs. Petraeus. He is devastated because he got caught. His family is devastated because he betrayed them.

    The likelihood of Obama being forthright with the truth about Benghazi is about as likely as a fat man dressed in red and carrying a large sack of toys sliding down my chimney next month, so don't wait up for that to happen, Whattheheck.

  • Whattheheck? Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 6:44 a.m.

    IMO this media hey-day offers smoke and mirrors to the serious issues of Benghazi. Adultery and illicit relationships will usually always make today's headlines over an incident with much more serious consequences, I.e. Loss of human life and how that happened two months ago. With all the media bombardment, we tend to get distracted and gravitate to the issues of other people, especially in "scandalous" situations such as this. I'm not saying this isn't serious, but we STILL need answers regarding Benghazi and I believe Pres Obama needs to come to the forefront to do this. In the Petraeus issue, he can safely stay in the background while the media and the masses clamor for the latest tidbit.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Nov. 14, 2012 1:34 a.m.

    Who cares about the affair? It's a soap opera. Like the video, it's a distraction.

    What about Libya and our killed Ambassador?

  • Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah
    Nov. 13, 2012 11:31 p.m.

    @ TruBlue: The investigation concerning the emails that implicated Patraeus started in May - hardly 1 week ago. Additional information about the affair came out in emails examined as part of the Benghazi investigation, again hardly 1 week.

    Using false "facts" does nothing to bolster your position.

  • Let's be reasonable Baghdad, 00
    Nov. 13, 2012 9:58 p.m.

    The act of adultry is not the problem. It is not that he was mean and disloyal to his wife. When you have access to classified information, your actions come under greater scrutiny by the US Gov AND other countries intelligence services. If you've no spine and an intel officer confronts you with evidence of an action you don't want others to know of, and you are dedicated to keeping it hidden, then the intel guy has a tool of great leverage. What is a person willing to do to keep the thing covered up?

    The intel guy would not ask you to do anything very big for the first few times. But then he will point to the first offence and then the subsequent actions and say, "hey you have spied on little things that makes you a spy dead to rights, now let's take about bigger things."

    Just like the devil with any type of common sin. Small sins become big sins. THAT is why the General is stepping down. You can't ask everyone in the government to avoid this and then have the head of the CIA do that exact action.

  • TruBlueAggie25 Logan, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:51 p.m.

    I disagree with what these men are doing, and it should be investigated, but its crazy how 4 people died in Benghazi more than a month ago and we really know nothing and investigations are going no where. A man commits adultery and the investigation goes to the moon and back in less than a week.

  • BYU Track Star Los Angeles, CA
    Nov. 13, 2012 5:33 p.m.

    This adultery Witchhunt is wandering into the realm of the absurd. Shall we shutdown the entire CIA and conduct a Marital Fidelity Inquisition of all employees? I've read this weekend that extra-affairs are fairly common in the CIA. I gathered from the above article that ALL illicit lovers need to adopt better methods of covert communication that would do Tom Clancey Fans proud. An old coded meassage of say ;UR IT! TTYL QTPi, XOXO BYUTS just would not cut today.

    Now flirtous behavior between the married sexes is suspect. Years ago reading Orwells 1984, Oceania had something called the Anti-Sex League. I wonder if this current scandal was the catalyst that got the League going back in Oceania? Finally the term Mistress seems not to properly capture of their former relationship. What would be a better term ? Ex-lovers?

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 4:58 p.m.

    Good grief! Nobody seems to have any boundaries any more--not even some of our most respected and powerful leaders.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Nov. 13, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    How disturbing for our Military Troops to be watching this behavior from their superior officers.
    Throughout the world, these individuals are fighting for out freedom, dealing with immense hardship and tragedy 24 hours of every day.
    Most likely, they have been told not to speak of this. However, it certainly would be interesting, to hear what this segment of our population has to say.