Dangerous behavior by Petraeus

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  • Denys Picard near montreal, QC
    Nov. 15, 2012 3:25 a.m.

    When journalists stop being able to tie the knots together, they stop being journalist and they simply become sport commentators, soap opera spectators.
    In the same week that President Sodomia leeks the possible appointment of pygmy Chi Wawa Susan Rice as potential new Secretary of State, 2 of the top intelligence personalities of the country are jeopardized in a Hollywood like manufactured B movie intrigue.
    When a candidacy for Secretary of State begins to be considered, the name is confidentially whispered to top personalities and offices of the State. Which means both Allen and Petraeus were probably made aware of Rice’s potential candidacy a few days after the election of November 6th. And it is clear that both probably had strong reserves about her capacities in this Office, and rightly so. So, Bang! Both of them are immediately entangled at the speed of light in a compromising scenario probably strategized as a pre “Coup d’État” what if B exit plan by I guess Leon Panetta himself.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 4:40 p.m.

    So the attorney general knew as early as late summer that the CIA director presented a national security risk. Yet we're told that the president wasn't informed of this until the day after the election.

    Either Eric Holder is grossly incompetent, or Barack Obama is lying.

  • gatsby Murray, utah
    Nov. 14, 2012 12:41 p.m.

    Thank you L White. I always appreciate, and take very seriously, any comment that turns my thoughts to the Savior, or the Master as you call Him. And none of us, thank goodness, will be the final judge of any person. But...I do need to make intermediate judgements of others' behavior every day. And I boldly state, that the General's behavior was dangerous, reckless and selfish. Tolerance has become the buzzword of our society, and although we do need to tolerate each other as human beings, and children of God, we do not need to "tolerate" any and all behavior. Frankly, such reluctance to condemn infidelity as a society, is partly why we're in this mess.

  • Joe Moe Logan, UT
    Nov. 14, 2012 12:05 a.m.

    You know Pat, a couple of people I know have raised that question. I can't figure out the answer. Everyone seems to think it's so clear and obvious that Petraeus should have resigned like he did. How is it different from Clinton? Most even say Clinton's only real boo-boo was lying about it. Petraeus hasn't done that, but his career is over. I am honestly flummoxed at the different responses. The only difference I can see is that over half the country (the ones that supported Clinton and his policies) had a LOT of skin in the game, and there was no way they were letting him go without a fight....while no one really has any skin in the game with Petraeus. So did politics just win over national security concerns with Clinton? Am I missing something??

  • Pat Sandy, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 9:09 p.m.

    Didn't Bill Clinton (when he was President) have access to the same kind of sensitive information as Gen Petraeus? I would assume he too was a threat to national security. Why didn't he resign?

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Nov. 13, 2012 7:43 p.m.

    L White,

    VST already answered the issue of how we have changed topics (innocence vs. forgiveness). My Thanks to VST.

    Let me address why the General should step down (which he has thankfully done).

    Perhaps things have changed, but when a friend of mine was involved with screening folks for high security clearances, affairs (for just rank and file operatives) were cause for significant concern because they opened a door to possible influence.

    The Director cannot have a different set of standards than does the rank and file. If anything, his comportment should be superior - a model for his entire staff.

    Note that none of this touches on the issue of forgiveness. It is about work qualifications and performance. The Savior's teachings included some amount of punishment for those who were lax about their responsibilities.

  • Whattheheck? Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 6:47 p.m.

    IMO this media hey-day offers smoke and mirrors to the serious issues of Benghazi. Adultery and illicit relationships will usually always make headlines over an incident with much more serious consequences, I.e. Loss of human life that happened two months ago. With all the media bombardment, we tend to get distracted and gravitate to the issues of other people, especially in situations such as this. I'm not saying this isn't serious, but we STILL need answers regarding Benghazi and I believe Pres Obama needs to come to the forefront to do this. In the Petraeus issue, he can safely stay in the background while the media and the masses clamor for the latest tidbit.

  • L White Springville, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 4:58 p.m.

    Go ahead, throw those stones, if it makes you feel better. Join in the crowd who wants to destroy. That's human nature. But remember that one time when the Master controlled the situation; when the Master knelt in the dirt and asked those around him to cast the first stone.


    Remember how forgiveness was offered on condition that the lady would "sin no more".

    How many "stones" do we have? How many people would we destroy with our "stones"? How many would do as the "Master" did and set our stones down?

    Throw them, if you must. If you will feel better destroying someone else, go ahead and toss those stones.

    I don't feel comfortable throwing stones, even if the general "confessed". Life has too many difficulties for any of us to think that we're so superior that we can throw stones.

  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 4:00 p.m.

    Is there a double standard or is the director of the CIA more important than the president of the US, as in William Jefferson Clinton?

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Nov. 13, 2012 3:53 p.m.

    L White,

    He admitted the affair.

  • L White Springville, UT
    Nov. 13, 2012 3:31 p.m.

    Let's never forget that in America, each person is INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty. Maybe the General is guilty. Maybe everything reported in the media is true. Maybe this is not just part of a "purge". Time will tell.

    Is it so hard to be honorable and to wait until the courts have ruled?

    Have we become a nation of "lynch men" who act first and contemplate later?

    Let the wheels of justice work.

  • gatsby Murray, utah
    Nov. 13, 2012 12:34 p.m.

    I heartily concur. Infidelity is one of the highest forms of selfishness. And what of the children...always the children suffer. Even adult children are contiually influenced by their parent's relationship. The media must accept some responsibility for making infildelity seem glamorous, exciting and without cost. But of course, we are all ultimately responsible for our personal choices. I can only hope that the media focus this time, will show that in REAL LIFE--there are tragic, and devestating effects from being unfaithful to one's spouse.