Credit hours vs. competency debate continues for classes

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  • georgeman Kearns, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 10:58 a.m.

    The real issue is that colleges are not really there to teach. They are there to make money and pump students through. I only went through the motions of getting a degree, because I had to.

    Professors are only there to collect a check!! I watch my wife who is in a human anatomy class right now, and she is failing miserably. Not because she doesn't know the stuff, but because the professor doesn't. In class he mislabeled three parts of the brain and added a fourth part that wasn't even part of the brain. When my wife took the test and labeled them all correctly she failed the test because she did not label them as the professor had taught. She showed the professor his mistake and he took more points because she questioned him. She went to the college Dean and was told "Oh Well".

    She is going into a medical field. Could you imagine if she made that kind of mistake on a real patient? When the college doesn't care about the accuracy of the learning, why should the students?

  • jwarkentin Riverton, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 8:13 a.m.

    This is exactly what I've been saying for forever now! I think the best approach would be for the government to simply act as an organizer and mediator in bringing the different schools together with the goal of achieving some sort of standardized competency based system that they can all work with. They have to be able to accept work students have done at other schools, but students NEED a way to get credit for what they know. In the work place it's what you know that counts, not how many hours you sat in a classroom - if any at all.

  • Claudio Springville, Ut
    Nov. 12, 2012 8:03 a.m.

    Ignoring My2Cents incredibly broad stereotyping of the situation...

    DN: How about a change of the headline to: "WGU Is the Bestest School Ever!" You can find success stories on any campus. The key is not the system, but the student. If students want to be successful, expand their understanding of broad topics, etc., they will. Honors classes and programs are often structured to be seminar style rather than lecture style. They encourage discussion and analysis of one's own thought. Not surprisingly, these classes are always nearly empty (around 7-10 students, I even had one with only 3). However, due to today's parents increasingly telling their children that the world is entirely black and white, good and evil, students avoid anything that makes them uncomfortable. Talk of legalizing gay marriage, marijuana, universal health care? No WAY! We don't want our poor, uneducated, immature children to be corrupted! Hence, the rise of helicopter parents as a major thorn in the side of education everywhere in the 21st Century.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Nov. 12, 2012 4:33 a.m.

    I didn't need a study and millions of dollars funding to figure this out with common sense The higher education of a high school degree of the 1960's compared to the college level standard of an education in the 21st century was outstanding. Students today are not taught to seek knowledge and limit questions with mind control drugs like Riddlen.

    By conversation alone you can tell that today's college grads can't compete with the education we were given 60 years ago. Our technology didn't have computers or internet or home PC's, but our education efforts overcame this roadblock by learning from our history and doing our own research with our own minds, not a glass colored window. Technology is a tool created by today's 60-80 year olds.

    Education by today's standards ends with the use of stagnate technology, limiting the mind of the young and limits free thinking and curiosity. They are taught that they don't need to seek and learn for themselves, government has already done it for them.

    If you want high tech, pick up a pencil, and use your mind. Gadgets are roadblocks to our future.