@ Utah'95 and LValfreI humbly stand corrected. I realize that,
statistically, you are correct. I'm also a BYU grad and remember knowing
and socializing with many Polynesian students (Jabari is half Polynesian),
Native American students (one of my room mates was Ute), and Asian students (my
other roommate was Japenese). My daughter's BYU room mate was African
American. So my personal experiences clouded my judgement. I apologize and,
no, Rock Springs is not particularly ethnically diverse, but probably more so
than just about any Utah community.
@won84Yes that was the guy and how they worked out isn't really
the point. It is the fact that BYU quite often either gets these kids or is in
consideration from these kids. utah "fans" seem to think that by saying
"it's just because they are LDS" discounts it but it doesn't.
That is BYU's connection and that is BYU's advantage. utah enjoys no
such advantage for recruits and has no such connection with recruits. They are
never even considered by any recruits that highly sought after. And
it is obvious that they are newsworthy since they are among the biggest recruits
in the country and even if they are not going to pick BYU it is of interest to
people here because most of us are LDS and regardless of the school someone goes
to we still have a conneciton with them by being LDS.
"the big olineman from Texas that signed with BYU that same year was rated
the #1 lineman recruit in the country."Ofa Mohateau? That
worked out about as well as Ben Olson.That said, BYU definitely has
a shot here. Rose has done a good job and has his best class yet coming in.
@utahcountyuteIt doesn't matter and it isn't the point.
The point is top recruits not only consider BYU but also often sign with BYU. So
Jabari Parker considering BYU is neither an anomally nor surprising. Yes the
thing all of those recruits had/have in common is that they are LDS but that is
a point BYU fans have been making for a very long time. Being the flagship of
your church gives them advantages. We all know they also have some disadvantages
but there are also some very strong advantages and one is it gives BYU and in
with top LDS athletes from aorund the country. When there is one out there BYU
becomes an automatic player with a chance to get them to sign. There
was nothing utah could have done to get themselves into the Parkers living room,
they simply do not have a connection to the Parker's and lack the national
reputation to interest him. But BYU was an automatic connnection and it has
obviously resulted in an opportunity. BYU gets to make their case to him, utah
was never even the slightest consideration. It is nice to have those advantages.
There was a U pipeline dream is done. Sorry Blue...
"the big olineman from Texas that signed with BYU that same year was rated
the #1 lineman recruit in the country."That one dude from Texas
that was #1 must have been a real get since you can't even remember his
@newmexicoute"I'd rather not have high expectations on any
high school recruit and then get letdown. "I don't think
you need to worry about it. No top ranked recruit in any sport has ever
considered utah at all. At BYU we are actually pretty accostumed to it. In just
the last 3 years the #1 and #2 qb recruits in the nation have both picked BYU.
About 10 years ago Ben Olsen was widely considered the #1 overall football
recruit in the nation when he signed with BYU. Likewise the big olineman from
Texas that signed with BYU that same year was rated the #1 lineman recruit in
the country. Michael Smith was the #1 basketball recruit in the nation the year
he signed with BYU, I believe Shawn Bradley was considered the #2 recruit behind
Shaquille O'Neil. Haloti Ngata was the #1 defensive line recruit in the
nation the year he picked Oregon over BYU on signing day to the chagrine of his
mother and father. Now they did not all turn out but that isn't
the point. The point is BYU actually gets considered, and picked by some of the
very top recruits in the country fairly regularly.
Like Manti Te'o in football, this high school recruit could choose a high
profile basketball program whose chances of going to a Final Four and
championship game are much greater than BYU. If he were to go to BYU, he would
probably go because he is a devout Mormon and take his chances that they
hopefully get to a Final Four if that is his dream/goal. But judging by all
these Jabari articles from the DNs, I've never seen a school and fan base
such as BYU so obsessed with a high school recruit. Hopefully he doesn't
disappoint the BYU fan base. I'd rather not have high expectations on any
high school recruit and then get letdown. I'd rather be surprised. But to
each its own.
I may be wrong, but I think that if he serves a mission, (anyone know if he has
actually said anything about that?), he will do it before going to any
university and then will go to BYU for at least a year. I think that would be
more likely because all athletes that serve missions lose a little during their
missions because they aren't focused on it. They have to get back in
athletic shape, put the muscle weight back on and dust of their abilities. I
think he would go to BYU with the opportunity to do just that, and learn a
little more about basketball. I think it would be BYU because BYU will allow
that 2 year wait without any problem. If Duke would do the same, then he would
go to Duke.After all of that, it all depends on him. And our
speculations are irrelevant. I wish him the best with whatever decision he
gchris,My guess is that you define "racial and ethnic
diversity" differently than most people.According to BYU:-6% of students are "international students."-14% of
students are "minorities."-1.5% of students are
"non-LDS."Those statistics may qualify as "diverse"
in Rock Springs, WY. But to most of the world, that's about as homogeneous
as it gets.By the way, I am a BYU grad. Been there, done that....
Just hope there will be a full house at the MC that will impress him. Just have
Jabari will do what he wants. If I was Jabari, I would rank my top 5 as
follows...Duke, Stanford, BYU, Michigan State, and Florida. I don't
believe he will serve a mission. His career will be more of an impact. In
reality, if his goal is a national championship, BYU comes in 5th behind Duke,
Florida, Michigan State, and Stanford.
@Kralon - "I don't think he could go straight to the NBA after a
mission and without college. I believe the requirement is to wait four years if
he doesn't choose college?"Sorry, but you are not correct.
The rules that started in the 2006 draft are:1. All drafted players
must be at least 19 years old during the calendar year of the draft. 2. Any player who is not an "international player", as defined in the
CBA, must be at least one year removed from the graduation of his high school
class.3. The "one year out of high school" requirement is in
addition to the age requirement.The rules say nothing about what the
player does for the one year removed from high school. I'm betting Jabari
will either commit to BYU or go on a mission next year.
@gchris"BYU happens to have the greatest racial and ethnic
diversity in the world"Either you're ill-informed or
you're lying. I'll assume you're ill-informed. It's hard to
comprehend such a far-fetched statement like you've just made.
The anticipation of where Parker might sign will end someday right?
CougFaninTXI don't think he could go straight to the NBA after
a mission and without college. I believe the requirement is to wait four years
if he doesn't choose college?
@Uncle RicoMay be news to you, but Jabari has already passed on
Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina and Kansas and will visit BYU last, maybe for a
reason. Playing for BYU in the WCC, Parker would be seen on national television
every game, either ESPN or BYUtv. And, LValfre, Parker will have all the
diversity he wants or needs at BYU and I'm sure he won't be
"rudely awakened. BYU happens to have the greatest racial and ethnic
diversity in the world, but most of all, Jabari would be among his
"kind" and I'm not talking about race.
And I wouldn't be surprised with the new age requirement to see Jabari go
straight to the MTC. After two years on a mission, he could go to the NBA with
no college requirement. If he does this, there will be five very disappointed
colleges. But it makes the most sense if he wants to serve. I
don't see him playing his Freshman year, then going on a mission, then
going to the NBA or back to college.
Uncle Rico,Thanks for your unbiased perspective. I will file your opinion
under the heading Clueless Comments.
Uncle Rico's NoseInconceivable as it may seem to some of the
jealous kids on the hill, top flight athletes often baffle the so-called
experts and make choices based on what the athlete feels is the best fit for him
personally.It wouldn't be surprising to see Jabari pick another
school.But, it also wouldn't be a bit surprising to see him
Rude awakening if he comes to Provo. Not diverse like Chicago ...
It's sad that Brad's attempts at humor are often so inane.
Nobody in their right mind would give up a chance to play at Kentucky, Duke,
North Carolina, Kansas, Stanford, and the likes to play for a team in the West
Coast Conference. Face it, I don't think he will be chosing BYU. No doubt
in my mind!
"How do they know he won't hang a left on 900 East and end up at the
Missionary Training Center instead of the Marriott Center?"-
It's still Provo-