Ethics and honesty — not taxation — most important to small business owners

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  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 2, 2012 7:18 p.m.

    SLars - you forgot to add "Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China." Same interview.

    When Mitt raised the claim that Jeep would be MOVING production to China... a complete misrepresentation of what was said.... FIATs president responded with

    "DETROIT (Reuters) - Chrysler Group LLC Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne reaffirmed on Tuesday that the company is not moving Jeep vehicle production out of the United States to China after it became an issue in the U.S. presidential campaign."

    after which the Romney campaign continued to run adds making the claim about the move, as well as using it as a talking point on the campaign trail in Ohio.

    So either Chrysler/Fiat doesn't know what they are talking about, or the Romney campaign is choosing to ignore statements by the companies themselves and use their own version of the truth.

    FIat/Chrysler may not be an American owned company - haven't been for a long time - but they employee 60,000 Americans.. and over 100,000 through its dealer network. So what they say does matter.

  • SLars Provo, UT
    Nov. 2, 2012 3:39 p.m.

    Let's get over Chrysler shall we? They are not an American vehicle anymore.

    -"Fiat SpA majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers’ operations in the region. Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia". Oct 21, 2012

    Mitt was just repeating what Fiat said.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 8:26 p.m.

    If what this article report on is true, then the embarrassing series of lies told by Mr. Romney should be reason enough for a Democratic landslide in bet is that most in Utah will vote based on perceived tags: conservative/liberal and/or on religious affiliation...ethics will come in last.

  • middle class Cedar City, 00
    Nov. 1, 2012 3:01 p.m.

    Integrity and ethics are part of the Theory of Relativity.

    Does a person have integrity if they hide their income, pay low taxes and build their wealth on the backs of the citizens and in the country with loophole laws favoring the rich?

    Does a person have ethics if they float their principles upon the raft of current popularity?

    These principles are relative. Relative to whom you want to trust. Relative to religion. Relative to gender, race, appearance.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 10:21 a.m.

    The problem with the term “small business” is that it does not truly reflect a distinct group of people. The character and nature of a small business is largely determined by the size and structure. And since the size can range from 1 to many hundred employees in all sorts of business ownership structures it is hard to make a statement that fits all of them.

    Politicians often paint the picture of small business as a small entity when talking to the public but when creating laws give more attention to the large.

    The actual fact is that business from the tiniest individual to the largest international corporation has as it’s main purpose the job of increasing the wealth of it’s owner(s).

    There is no morally greater reason for granting special status to the manner in which a person makes a living. The businessman, farmer, soldier or any other endeavor, should not receive any more respect or deification than the street sweeper.

    However, anything that can be done to improve honesty and decency will be greatly appreciated by the people.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 10:07 a.m.

    It will be interesting to see which Mitt governs if elected: the tea-party Romney who was accused of being a liar by his Republican challengers or the moderate Mitt who Etch-a-Sketched himself back into existence at the first presidential debate. Since we don't really know which Mitt is the real one, how are we to vote? Does any of this relate to ethics and honesty? Apparently not in Mitt's definition of the terms.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Nov. 1, 2012 8:29 a.m.

    Then I guess there won't be many business owners voting for Romney, eh?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Nov. 1, 2012 6:02 a.m.

    But.... This article contradicts what we hear daily. As does the article last week about what large corporations believe needs to happen.

    We have been told that repealing Obamacare and lowering taxes were the most important issues in fixing our economy.

    Instead, the economy and the deficit is are the highest priorities.

    How to lower the deficit? Easy, but politically tough.

    Reform entitlements and reduce expenditures. Reduce the growth in health-care costs.
    Reduce Defense spending. Raise taxes.

    That is a balanced approach which corporate leaders endorse. Sounds like small business owners would also support it.

    Drop the party ideology, tell Grover to take a hike, and tell congress to work together for a reasonable compromise between these things.

    The answers are fairly simple, if we could get party politics out of the way.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Nov. 1, 2012 5:23 a.m.

    Ok, I double read the article.... the linkage to Romney is what? The day after Chrysler's chief directly called the Romney campaign out for creating false fears that Jeep production was moving to China, basically saying the campaign was spreading lies, the DN decides to run a piece on honesty featuring a picture of Romney. Not only that, GM has also called out the Romney campaign for spreading lies about production moves to China for GM as well.

    Now I get that unfortunately Romney does not control everything his surrogates say, and that he himself makes misleading and false statements when he is ill informed. That is what happens in large organizations. It would just be nice to remember that fact when speaking about those on the opposite side, that things get murky in large organizations.

    But to run an ethics and honesty piece as a thinly vailled news piece..... DN, really, give it a rest. The article was actually quit good..... it is just that your photo editor once again couldn't help themselves in putting a partisan spin on it.