re: worf 12:07 p.m. Oct. 31,"Low intellect equals a person
surprised by common sense."You mean when your typical tea party
following, Fox News watching, Glenn Beck parroting, social conservative is
confronted by reality, right!?
Romney DID NOT EVER say he would "defund" FEMA---he said he would like
states to direct where resources would go, INCLUDING FEMA. I cannot believe
that people are falling for this flip flop boloney.His words should
be read in the context of the question that was asked---and the moderator
himself said "FEMA is running out of money." In response, Mitt Romney
never said anything about defunding FEMA, only that the states are better to
know how and where resources are needed to be placed. Check the transcript on
Regulations, and waiting for approvals will not fix the problems.People helping people is the key.
Sometimes it makes sense to make decisions on a case by case basis; For example, I believe in the death penalty. Hhowever, there are always going
to be extenuating circumstances where I would not support it in that particular
instance. Does that mean I flip flopped? No.
I should think that would be obvious Kargirl. It's easy to give your
money. The hard thing is giving your time. Anyone can write a check. Time is
far more valuable. Besides, how do you know he didn't make a donation to
the LDS Church's disaster relief fund AND to the Red Cross AND turn a
cancelled campaign rally into a disaster relief fund? After all, this is the
man who gave 30% of his income to charity, more than you or I donated,
that's for sure. But he wouldn't have mentioned any monetary
donations, he is more modest than that.
One thing I'm curious about, and maybe one of you Romney cheerleaders knows
the answer. He should know that the LDS Church has a specific organization
dedicated just to disaster relief. He's likely aware they've sent
assistance all over the world, and are assisting those affected by Sandy. And
surely, as a former Stake President he knows there is a process to donate to
that fund and direct one's donation. He also likely realizes that the Red
Cross prefers monetary donations so they can target them to specific needs on
the ground--and I'm sure also for the obvious speed in getting them there
and used quickly, and also for the need for blood and platelets in these
disasters. Granted, they aren't a very good photo op, but why didn't
Governor Romney do this instead? It would have been boring. But in this case,
boring is a good thing, and something, frankly, that, whether it helped him win
or not, would be welcomed by all.
@Liberal Ted"Obama lied as Americans died."Romney lied
as Americans died. He lied about the embassy statement made before the attacks,
claiming it was an apology. He wasted no time to factcheck before trying to
exploit dead Americans for political gain.
The Nashville flood of 2010 received little attention from Obama and his
media.There was scores of deaths and $2 Billion in damage.Obama and his media were so focused on scuttling Americas gulf oil production
and sending the oil rigs to Brazil that they failed to show attention and relief
to Nashville flood victims.
Mitt never had my vote and he certainly doesn't have it now. While
President Obama was in New Jersey comforting the people after the devastation
caused by Hurricane Sandy, Mitt was on the campaign trail. Make no mistake.
The fact that he is a Latter-day Saint has NOTHING to do with my vote.
It's his continual flip-flopping on the issues - just as he did in the
State of Massachusetts - that caused my entire family to vote yet again for
President Obama.May God help us all.
This article is sort of misleading. The comment from the moderator stated that
maybe states should take on more of a role relating to natural type disasters.
He didn't ask if they should get rid of FEMA. He just asked Romney what he
would do about that.Governor Romney stated on a general basis that
if states could do it better then that should be given to the states. In
actuality, the states are the ones that respond along with the local entities
and utility company involvement. Cities and counties have trained people using
a lesson plan provided by emergency management to assist and augment the local
authorities.These are state citizens that help. The federal
government may get involved but their process is oversight and provide
assistance when needed, usually money and arranging for equipment, if needed.The Obama campaign has been using rhetoric and editorial and
journalistic liberty at saying that Romney would cut billions of dollars. That
is not what he said and the Obama people don't care if they stretch the
truth.Truth is truth and only the facts change to make it more
inviting to show President Clinton's definition of "is" false.
HEY! Not that this will matter to repeat what several have already said, but
Romney has not flip-flopped on anything mentioned in the article, and in spite
of Andrew Taylor's efforts and the AP. BTW, his writing skills are
terrible. Nevertheless, Romney has the decency not to be critical of the
President at this time, but instead chooses to participate in providing relief
for victims. But it doesn't matter, because you, who have chosen to despise
Romney will only see what you want. Did you happen to check out the riots in
Europe going on this week? They have already gone down that path Obama is taking
us. They have tapped out their credit limits, and the piper has come a calling
to collect. If you Obama fans get your way, you can be sure that the upheaval
and chaos headed our way will make Europe's uprisings and anarchy look like
a May pole dance on a sunny spring day. Better grab something and grit your
teeth, cause it's gonna hurt!
Mitt Romney saw a disaster and, as the good person he is, he wanted to help. I
don't know why people say he is flip-flopping. How ludicrous. Helping
during a disaster is one thing but consistently giving unnecessary freebies is
another. The Obama administration helps the blood suckers who keep living off
entitlements. This administration gave useless bailouts, as in the instance,
spending millions of dollars to prove a male fruit fly is more attracted to
young female fruit flies, is ridiculous! There are people out there who expect
the government to help them by collecting all sorts of entitlements. They never
had a job, all they do is collect government money and they get it in the form
of welfare, free hospital care, food stamps and just being illegal aliens. This
is what Romney means by a corrupt government. He by no means will ever back off
from helping during disasters such as Sandy. That is not flip-flopping.
CORRECTION. I left out the word NOT. His religion is a plus and not a hurt.
First, may I say that Chris Christie must have been tired..because his
expressions about Mitt were poorly spoken.What Mitt did yesterday to
help the help effort was such a great example of what Americans can do to help
Americans. We do not need big government! What do you think people did a
century ago when hurricanes hit? People help people. Mitt will make a
wonderful President. Possibly the best President we have ever had. I am considering giving up my subscription to the Deseret News. Having to
read the propaganda that the AP puts out often is just getting too much for
me.I believe Mitt's comments some are calling flip flops are
meant for this current disaster. No where does he say for the rest of my life,
I will see that FEMA has what it needs.
Whatever political stance Romney has this week will change next week - if he
thinks that's what his audience wants to hear.
Promoting the general welfare was seen from the beginning as part of
governmental responsibility. And over time there has been general agreement that
some things are too overwhelming for states to do alone. Disasters are among
those things. It seems that Romney's flop back may be a little me-too-ism,
useful when running for President. Ryan has said little lately, I imagine given
his position, there is little he can say. I'm sure that Pres. Obama and
Gov. Christie know that it is not necessary to dispise someone who is
politically different. Giving credit when due is what adults do. Let's hope
some others follow that example.
So if I think that it is better for assistance to come from local sources such
as family and friends, then does that mean I would forgo accessing assistance
from where ever it is available?When a question about FEMA is used
to reiterate a principle of returning responsibility to the several states, then
I would like to think that the end goal would be to have states and local
governments, the first line of assistance, be expanded and that the existing
FEMA role would be diminished and phased out; not abruptly abandoned.
Romney's current actions bespeaks that exact reality. There is a current
and massive crises created in several states because of weather, and the
existing role of FEMA is the best federal government response in support of the
first responders already in the field. That should be augmented by whatever
personal donations and organizations can add in affecting the necessary
clean-up. Christie's response to those who decided to ignore
wise advice, although harsh, is also correct. I would hope that when
circumstances permit he will choose to extend his efforts to those short-sighted
parts of his society.
I felt really proud when I heard the president say on national TV that in the
face of Sandy, no one would be left behind. I'm just disappointed that he
couldn't/wouldn't make the same statement as our Embassy in Libya was
I do not see any flip flopping at all but I do see shamefully biased reporting
and misinterpretation of Romney's statements.Romney said,
"I believe that FEMA plays a key role in working with states and localities
to prepare for and respond to natural disasters."Currently, FEMA
is the key agency set up to provide aid in these situations. Why would Romney
say otherwise? FEMA does currently play a key role. There will always be a need
to be prepared to respond to disasters. I'm quite confident Romney will
act to strengthen our nations capability in that regard, not weaken it. He also said, "As president, I will ensure FEMA has the funding it
needs to fulfill its mission, while directing maximum resources to the first
responders who work tirelessly to help those in need, because states and
localities are in the best position to get aid to the individuals and
communities affected by natural disasters."He is simply
re-emphasizing that state government is often in a better position to more
efficiently utilize funds and administer relief within the state, quickly and
This plus FEMA, plus auto ad misrepresentation equals an unbelievable candidate.
Who is running this campaign?
flip flop happens. Obama was for traditional marriage in his 2008 campaign.
After he was elected he flipped it upside down.
TruBlueAggie25"Why do we attack politicians for doing something
good?"____________________In case you forgot, there's
a Presidential election in six days. I haven't heard anyone attack Romney
for his relief efforts yesterday. What they are remarking on is the contrast
between his remarks about FEMA yesterday and what he said back in June.
Aren't you tired of this old story by now?
@ATL. "I don't think it's just coincidence that his disaster
relief events still use all his campaign music, show his campaign videos, have
signs calling it a campaign event, and happen to be in states like Ohio."And you don't think BO would be in Ohio if he wasn't trying
to rack up votes showing his face on TV every chance he gets to talk about the
storm? The next thing I expect him to say is "I saved the nation from
Sandy". Mitt Romney was set to campaign before the storm, and
instead decided to gather supplies. That's why signs, etc. Actions speak
louder than words.BTW, I would like a truthful answer from this
president (small letter p): .WHEN did you know about Benghazi and WHY
didn't you do something about it? I'm not going to hold my breath
waiting for an answer while it's being buried by lame stream media. However
the American people deserve an answer.
A big storm comes in and creates $50 billion in damage and it is supposed to be
magically paid for by Obama, the hero, who is here to save the day?I
don't get it!There is a cost to fixing things and providing
relief to people in need.I have seen over my lifetime how the
government generally handles the situation. It is slow and expensive.There is no easy fix. We all need to get out our shovels and help clean up
the mess. To sit back and expect the government to do it for free is crazy.also, how money of these clown government contractors are going to show
up to milk it for all it is worth? Plenty! So to act like Romney
is flip flopping when it is clear that we have a huge, unexpected, mess on our
hands is silly.Also, if you "government hand out" types have
a better plan then let's here it instead of looking for any angle you can
to throw President Romney under the bus.Get a shovel and let's
get to work.Thanks.
@atl134Hello!!! It was supposed to be a campaign event, which was planned
before anyone even knew there would be a hurricane, so obviously there were
campaign signs there. They used what they had, which was campaign materials to
run the relief efforts. They already had the stuff.I am happy to know
that instead of running a rally he decided to turn his campaign dollars and time
to relief. Im also grateful that Obama would return to head relief
efforts.Why do we attack politicians for doing something good? It
doesn't make sense. Those are the things we should praise. Yet we attack
their reasons for doing claiming that we know what goes through their heads
better than they do.
To "Ernest T. Bass" you are wrong. When Katrina hit there were
companies like Walmart and Home Depot that responded much faster than the
government was able to. They provided food, water, and materials to calm people
and get them the help they needed. The amazing thing is that they did it on
their own dime, and did not profit from it.See "Private
Companies Rush in to Help Hurricane Katrina Victims" at Heartland.If you read "Accepting Disaster Relief from Other Nations: Lessons from
Katrina and the Gulf Oil Spill" at Heritage you find that with government
there is a problem with " U.S. officials declined the majority of the
assistance offered, and were slow to accept the small amount they did. This
inability to accept help rapidly from other nations during domestic disasters
hurts American response and recovery."Why keep trusting a system
that is slow to provide quick response?
Obama lied as Americans died. And folks here have nothing better to do, than say
disparaging remarks about someone that is actually trying to help other
people.Very little people on this thread. These are the people that
shouldn't be allowed to vote. They obviously lack any ability to make a
half decent judgement call. If this is all they have on Mitt, then obviously he
is the best candidate to choose from.Get used to saying President
Looks like the AP has revved up their anti-Romney propaganda machine again.
It's pretty pathetic to politicize a natural disaster and use it to
criticize a candidate who is encouraging people to donate as he gathers relief
supplies, while remaining silent on the emerging Libya scandal.
"We cannot afford to do those things without jeopardizing the future for our
kids. It is simply immoral, in my view, for us to continue to rack up larger and
larger debts and pass them on to our kids."Who will think of the
children? One thing you can say about Romney is that he is very
concerned about children. I mean just think of all the American jobs he has
given them over in China.
@GZEWe don't even need an earthquake to show what we'd do. Utah
sought disaster relief after that wind storm a few months ago and I'm
pretty sure Mia Love has been looking for federal dollars for the fire and
flooding in her town.
"Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal
government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction. And
if you can go even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's
even better." - Mitt Romney____________________That glib
statement shows why Romney should not be President. No awareness of civic
responsibility as a public trustee for FEMA or any other public safety function
that must remain under public control. The GOP base is so blinded by
anti-government fanaticism that not even the contracting of law enforcement to
the private sector is off the table. What the GOP needs is a standard bearer
with the basic common sense of a Dwight Eisenhower.
@JayTee"Amazing how so many Americans have now been trained to believe
that only government can solve the problems of society"We
believe that the government is a valuable vehicle with which to help in these
kinds of situations, not the ONLY way. @Whattheheck?"I
believe Mitt Romney has taken the higher road the past few days and has toned
down his political campaigning in deference to the victims of Sandy."I don't think it's just coincidence that his disaster relief
events still use all his campaign music, show his campaign videos, have signs
calling it a campaign event, and happen to be in states like Ohio.@Richard B."With respect to the notion that I can just suspend
deportations throughexecutive order, that’s just not the case,
because there are laws onthe books that Congress has passed."-Barack Obama March 27, 2011Would you mind quoting the next couple
sentences of what Obama said there? I'll give you a hint, it starts with
"What I can do is" and proceeds with basically exactly what he ended up
The disingenuous left wing continues to confuse the proper functions of federal
and state governments. It's not all or nothing. Disaster aid is legitimate
and compatible with the Constitution to "..promote the general
welfare...." That does not mean infringe on every aspect of citizens
personal lives and confiscate our pay checks in taxes.
@FatherofFourWhy not both?In the first he does not say that he would
eliminate FEMA. He says that it is better in the state or private sectors...
Having aid in the state sector doesn't mean that he would be eliminating
FEMA. you can run aid from the state and have FEMA helping as well. The fact is
that the liberal media and liberals twist what he says to be bad. I don't
see him flopping on this issue. I see him first making a statement that aid is
best if it comes from the state because the state is in a better position and
then saying that he would make sure FEMA could complete its missions. That is
easier and cheaper if FEMA has less responsibilities and the state level takes
care of the majority of disasters. The problem is that people hear
"should be in the state level" and they assume that FEMA will be
eliminated. Then they hear "FEMA will have enough" and they assume he is
changing his ideas.Democrats look to call anything Romney says a Flip
Flop. It goes both ways, republicans do the same to democrats.
You knoew it was coming, the main stream media blitz trying to get Obama four
more years. I love how Obama included "lean forward" in his comments to
get help to the affected states. He is salivating over this disaster as a way
to turn his campaign around. Sorry I don't think America is
going to wipe away four years of $1 Trillion dollar deficits, GDP below 2%, and
over 20 million people without a job or full-time employment, and no plan except
to raise taxes?America needs someone that is that has discipline,
ability to work with others, and work ethic to get the job done. Obama is only
focused when he realizes that he is about to lose his job. No more broken
promises. Romney Ryan 2012.
Amazing how many good people put their "faith" in money, but have no
faith in the basic principle of the good Samaritan. Helping each other is what
civilized people do. I wish all of the military "hawks" were as willing
to financially support rescuing their fellow Americans who are victims of
natural disasters, as they are to spend vast sums to invade foreign lands.
One thing about Mitt; you always know where he stands on an issue. On just the
opposite side of where he stood the last time he was asked.
Throwing money at something rarely solves the problem. But, a qualified leader
using resources efficiently can solve just about any problem. You can spend
less money on a problem if you have a leader who can lead effectively. Not all leaders are built the same, and speaking as one in DC who has to
work with the administration, Pres. Obama has run one of the least efficient,
most mistake prone administrations I've ever seen. Clinton's Admin
was one of the best run - night and day difference. Career employees are just
biding their time and frustrated that they haven't been able to do much of
anything for the past 4 years. It's been mismanaged from the top down.
What this admin is very good at is taking advantage of political opportunities
to look good, like now.
Mostly Socialist News Broadcasting Company (MSNBC) started this nonsensical
story about Romney trying to gather "in-kind" donations, and obviously
others of the lamestream media decided to latch on to it.I'm
sure if relief agencies didn't want the donated items that THEY could relay
that information to Romney.Nothing to see here except more
campaigning AGAINST Mitt Romney by the lamestream media.
Re: "Mitt Romney faces scrutiny on aid in storm's wake"Yeah, it's hard for the American left to understand why people would try
to help one another in a time of tragedy -- as Mitt has done time and time again
over an entire lifetime.The leftist solution is to leave it to
government, at the highest possible levels, so they don't have to soil
their hands with any actual one-on-one helping.
What a joke!! This story is really a non-issue and was only written to stir the
pot. This is is NO WAY a flip flop like all of you are babbling about. The words
"Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal
government and send it back to the states, that's the right direction,"
is in no way Romney saying that he would get rid of FEMA or disaster relief. This whole story is nothing but a political "read between the
lines" type mish mash. Go back to your jobs (if you have one) and quit
reading into things that aren't there.No flip flop, just
Had Mitt come out and demanded that someone have their taxes raised on them and
pay their "fair" share for victims then he would be applauded by the
left. What the left has a hard time understanding, is the generosity of
Americans. We will give our time and means to help those in need. We don't
need government to tax and manage every aspect of our lives. The Feds need to
focus on the military and killing the terroists that killed Americans in Libya.
Focus on protecting our assests and intellecutal properties. Defend this country
from foreign computer attacks. Export illegals and make legislation, so people
can work here legally and take away the incentive to be here illegally.Instead this regime has nothing better to do with an election 6 days away and
a devastating storm that ruined homes and lives, to nit pick at Mitt that is
actually working with volunteers to help those affected by this storm. At some
point the left will start blaming Bush for the storm. While ignoring the regime
that wouldn't send help to fellow Americans begging for support in
Libya.Obama lied and Americans diedNobama2012
"And Reagan certainly proved his point. Look at the mess we're in now
as a result of his policies that started the downward slide of the middle
class."I wasn't aware that the democrats got their banking
policies and housing market policies from Reagan.Once again, the
left is playing the blame game. Blame Bush, blame Reagan, blame whoever and
whatever as long as that person is not a liberal democrat.
Low intellect equals a person surprised by common sense.
So when Salt Lake County is flattend by that earthquake that's coming,
we're going to handle it without help from anyone except private
individuals and non-profit organizations?No clean water, no medical assistance,
no search dogs, no fire or utility help from anyone outside the County? Really?
Yup, Rifleboy. And Reagan certainly proved his point. Look at the mess
we're in now as a result of his policies that started the downward slide of
the middle class.
Rifleman Salt Lake City, UtahDid Reagan follow-up that statement
with: "Too bad, you're on your own. Tough luck!"
Come on, DesNews. Really? Really?You can't say anything
critical of Obama, but you certainly are willing to participate in a
media-created controversy on Romney.And you turn a blind eye to a
true controversy regarding the Obama Administration's Libya scandal.What class.
No flip flop. FEMA has it's place. But by participating in that campaign
event that got a ton of private donations, he also showed that the private
sector has it's place in disasters.
"I expect the propaganda machine of the left- the mainstream media, will
continue to twist and pervert the truth." Steve - all the AP
did was accurately quote Mr. Romney and illustrate the inconsistency of his
positions. He says what it politically expedient for the day, that's all.
That one was easy.And by the way, if you want to see leadership in
the executive branch, take a look at what's happening right now with regard
to this disaster...and listen to the words of Republican Governor Chris
Christie, one of the president's most hard core critics, now heaping praise
on the care and concern of the president.
I said long before the primaries that Mitt Romney would be hurt because of his
religion, but his forced alignment with the tax hating Tea Party would do him
considerable damage,What if Chris Christie really wanted to
embarrass Mitt Romney by loudly predicting a game changing first debate and
having it backfire? What if SNL had it right to spoof that he is playing for
2016? What if he subtly works to get Obama re- elected? Do I have serious
character flaws to be so cynical? Or could I be right in thinking that Chris
Christie may really be in Mitt Romney’s camp as a wolf in sheep’s
clothing? I got that idea during his speech at the RNC.
Romney's debate comments are being intentionally twisted. Romney is not
flip flopping. I listened to the original debate comments in context, and it is
very clear that he simply took the question about FEMA as an opportunity to
emphasize a GENERAL PRINCIPLE that we should push all the things that can
REASONABLY BE DONE at the state level, to the state and local governments. He
did NOT explicitly state that FEMA should disappear or that it doesn't have
any place in the federal government. People are putting words in his mouth that
he didn't say. Wouldn't everyone want whatever system our government
has to help those in need during disasters to operate as effectively as
possible? Romney aims to do just that, and he may very well be right, that if
states and local governments were allowed more leeway, they'd be more
effective. But Federal Government help to augment the state level organizations
would of course still exist.
Wow- such bitterness toward Mitt Romney!Propaganda really does make it
difficult sometimes to discern the truth... Greed in the government is
far worse than ineptitude or greed in the private sector.Mitt Romney is an
honest and competent man- give him a chance and you will see the good he will do
as he does what he has promised. Of course, I expect the propaganda machine of
the left- the mainstream media, will continue to twist and pervert the truth to
suit their hidden (or not so hidden) agendas even after President Romney is
elected.I anxiously await the leadership we will soon see coming from the
Executive Branch of the U.S.
Why pay attention to anything Romney says when no matter what it is he says
today you just don't know what he'll say tomorrow?
Can I get (another) Flip-Flop. Continue to tell the people what they want to
hear, when it best suits you, sir!
Romney is absoultey correct about FEMA: State and city governments must take the
lead in administering aid to their populations after a disaster. Meanwhile the
AP is silent on the Obama administration Benghazi coverup.
If there was anything worse than help from government it would be "help"
from a privatized business who's intent is making a profit off of
disaster.Some people claim the government is inept, well greed is far
All politicians flip flop. "With respect to the notion that I
can just suspend deportations throughexecutive order, that’s just
not the case, because there are laws onthe books that Congress has
passed."-Barack Obama March 27, 2011ooops, there goes
an Obama flip flop
Romney then:"Every time you have an occasion to take something
from the federal government and send it back to the states, that's the
right direction," Romney said at a debate last June. "And if you can go
even further, and send it back to the private sector, that's even
better."Romney now:"As president, I will ensure
FEMA has the funding it needs to fulfill its mission" So which
one do we believe? Which one is right? You cannot support either argument
without disagreeing with Romney on the other one.
"he appeared to suggest"Personal opinion. Journalistic
I believe Mitt Romney has taken the higher road the past few days and has toned
down his political campaigning in deference to the victims of Sandy. But now
here in this very article, the Associated Press is politicizing for him. That
the AP is not deferring their comments is proof to the fact that the lame media
is all about the bottom line "getting a story=$$". But then the media
is above all that and an entity unto themselves. I personally can't wait
for the negative rhetoric of this election to be over and done.
Every Man an Island huh JayTee, that's what living in a society is about?
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm
from the government and I'm here to help.'"
It would be so nice if Romney, just once, could be consistent about anything.
Sadly that's not going to happen. Flip. Flop. Flip. Flop. Typical
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm
from the government and I'm here to help.'" - Ronald Reagan
Wath it, here he goes....here he goes...Flip and ....Flop!Am I surprised?NO integrity whatsoever.
Amazing how so many Americans have now been trained to believe that only
government can solve the problems of society. The Soviets and others have
operated on this basis, and added proof to the fact that it doesn't work,
never has worked, and never will work. Saying FEMA is the ultimate answer to a
disaster is like saying Pepto Bismol is the ultimate answer to all
gastrointestinal issues and ailments.
Geez...how many times can Romney flip-flop on a subject. Here is a perfect
opportunity to prove he is a man of his word and tell voters it is immoral for
the federal government to help these people.Instead the ole'
etch-a-sketch is once again used.