Utah Jazz: Favors, Kanter give fans a glimpse into future in win over Portland

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  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 29, 2012 3:49 p.m.

    I certainly didn't mean to use the description of a pure shooter to say he was lacking in other areas. I love his defensive hustle, his ballhandling, his court vision, etc. I just think ONE of his great talents is shooting.

    Physically, the package is complete. But he tends to get passive in the half court offense.
    - He'll sometimes sit on the edges of the offense during an entire possession.
    - He doesn't make hard cuts off his screening team mate, but kind of glides through them often leaving a gap of 2-3 feet for a defender to get through.
    - His shots off screens tend to be falling away instead of falling toward the defender to cut off the shot-block opportunities and increase his chance of drawing a foul.
    - He'll often pass on wide open shots instead of having the mentality to take it ala Marvin Williams who has already shown the penchant to take the open shot.

    I don't get it. In the fast break, he's aggressive; sometimes too aggressive running right through people and getting called for offensive fouls. But in the half court, he's timid.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Oct. 28, 2012 6:22 p.m.


    There is nothing lacking on his form...as long as he shoots it comfortably...but when you add weight and muscle...means you get more power...having more power...means you need to adjust on how you shoot it...you might say it should be muscle memory...and yes it should...but still you need to work on it...its not like it would happen overnight...i just disagree with you calling Hayward a Pure Shooter...because he isnt a pure shooter...he can shoot...but he isnt a pure shooter...and you limit his talents by just tagging him as a pure shooter...the kid can shoot...and is a great all around player...

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 27, 2012 9:24 a.m.

    What does Hayward lack from being a pure shooter? Is that something you read in the paper or is there something in his form that bothers you. His form is about as good as it gets. He shoots the ball from a high position. He gets his legs under his shot. His range is from right at the basket to four feet beyond the 3-point line. The early comparisons to the logo, Jerry West, were because of his offensive game. Please tell me what you think is lacking in his shooting form.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Oct. 27, 2012 4:17 a.m.


    Hayward isnt a pure shooter...he was drafted because of what he can do both sides of the ball...he is like AK but has better shooting...im not sure what happened to his shot...maybe Hornacek messed him up...or the added bulk messed him up...he is an intelligent player with a High Basketball IQ...he wont be an all-star yet...but he can...i think he needs a solid mentor...and if i was him...i would ask Manu Ginobili if he could help me out...because honestly...i see hayward as a manu type of player...i just like what he brings...a little bit of everything...

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 26, 2012 3:45 p.m.

    Kanter: Real deal. Not a great athlete but still more than a blue-collar guy. Skilled and works hard.

    Favors: Currently behind Kanter on the consistency meter but his athletic ability gives him a much greater upside.

    Burks: Black hole. Doesn't see the court well. May not be fixable. Some guys never figure out where the other players are on the court. If they score like MJ, it's okay. If not ...

    Hayward: Confusing. Tremendously gifted. Aggressive on defense and on the fast break. Runs half court offense as if he's an X on a chalkboard. Very timid. Still misses too many open shots for a guy who is supposed to be a pure shooter.

  • HCB63 Orem, UT
    Oct. 26, 2012 12:13 p.m.

    Is another Basket-Brawl season here already?

    I stopped paying attention to the NBA when whiney street thug ball became the norm instead of a game of skill, strategy and teamwork.

    I used to be a huge Jazz fan; but after what the league did to Seattle, as well as how they have allowed the game to devolve into an on-court brawl with a bunch of whining, self-centered pouty millionare homeboys, I just can't support the league any longer.

    Get the league back to the game of basketball and I will gladly start paying attention again.

  • UkJazz W-Ton, Uk
    Oct. 26, 2012 8:29 a.m.

    So what did we learn from pre-season ??

    1) Run Forest Run !!! We have a great chance of being top of the fast break pts chart

    2) Defense ? Well hopefully better but still a work in progress

    3) Bye Bye Sloan..... Well it now looks like we will shoot the trey more often. After adding Marv, Mo, & Randy possibly just possibly we could be good at it as well.

    4) At least 2 quality players at EVERY position !!!! Yes we are v v v deep this year can only help over a 82 game season.

    5) He is indeed a "menace" Finally congrats to Enes Kanter, he obviously has improved both physically & with his offensive game. If Hayward n Favors could make similar strides forward the future is bright !!!!

    Should be a fun season n I for one cannot wait...... :-)

  • Americanvet Ivins, UT
    Oct. 26, 2012 8:28 a.m.

    I think Kanter and Burkes both appear much improved over last year and considering the short season last year they both seem ahead of schedule in their development. Favors had an extra full season on those two guys but it seems we all keep waiting for him to be the next big star. I guess I'm not as sure that Favors will be that consistent big time player or that he will reach his potential. I sure hope so but at this rate I think we might see bigger contributions from Kanter and Burks. Agree or disagree?

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Oct. 26, 2012 12:13 a.m.

    You can glimpse all you want but the future is now! Go Jazz Go !