Brad Rock: Utah, BYU exposed as ordinary Joes

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  • Levin Hightstown, NJ
    Oct. 28, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    @etranger, I would suppose that the correlation between college football fandom and conservatism is simply a consequence of well-documented rural-urban differences in politics.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 27, 2012 6:22 p.m.


    boise st has no shot at a bcs bowl.


  • UtahBronco Lehi, UT
    Oct. 26, 2012 5:31 p.m.

    CougFaninTX -

    Mediocre Boise State has since progressed to a 6-1 record, #21 in current BCS rankings and a reasonable shot at another BCS bowl. I'll take that in a rebuilding year.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Oct. 26, 2012 3:55 p.m.

    @Who am I sir? - In short, BYU was expected to lose to any good team on their schedule and expected to defeat all the others.

    You are inferring that Utah and Boise State are good teams this year, and that is not correct. BYU, using a QB with a broken back, lost to a bad Utah team. And BYU, using the same QB, lost to a mediocre Boise State team. BYU lost to two teams who cannot be classified as good.

    This article is spot on - neither BYU nor Utah are very good this year.

    But in basketball, BYU will be very good. As for Utah . . . I think we all know the answer to that question.

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    Oct. 26, 2012 11:13 a.m.

    I agree that the fans on these boards vastly over-rated their teams. Since the only Utah gave I've seen was the BYU game, I have no opinion on their team. It is a fact that that they have lost every game since the BYU game, so I guess they're pretty bad. It appears that their offense may be an issue.

    BYU on the other hand, has been in every game with opportunities to win. Their defense is top tier. The offensive scheme is an issue, possibly hampered by the lack of a strong-armed QB. Absent the touchdowns after turnovers, BYU would have two losses. Because of the QB play, Doman's offense looks terrible, with little ability to score quickly and sadly, an inability to score from inside the blue zone.

    For BYU, these problems might go away next year with the graduation of Nelson and Lark. But, of course, whomever plays QB next year will have little or no experience.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    Oct. 26, 2012 4:20 a.m.

    Two coaches who are arrogant and unapproachable, two offensive coordinators who were good qbs when told what to do but can't tell others what to do to succeed, and big misses by both schools at quarterback. You could see this coming, especially the quarterback fiasco. At least Utah State is bowl eligible.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 10:47 p.m.

    BYU is not a disappointment this year. Last spring both Utah and BYU were predicted to have a 8-4 season this year. BYU's four losses were predictably Utah, Boise, Notre Dame, and Georgia Tech. No one expeceted Oregon State to be undefeated at this point in the season. So if BYU defeates Georgia Tech their record will be 8-4 (could San Jose give them a game? Certainly, New Mexico State and Idaho won't.) If BYU loses to Georgia Tech, their record would be one less win than was predicted last spring. In short, BYU was expected to lose to any good team on their schedule and expected to defeat all the others. Utah, on the other hand, probably will not be bowl eligible. Their play has been a disappointment and the level of their competition is such that they cannot win games and play as they have this year.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 7:53 p.m.

    Not so Rock monster...

    BYU will be WAC Champs by the end of November.

  • etranger PROVO, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 7:10 p.m.

    It has been revealed in surveys that college football supporters tend to be social conservatives who vote republican.

    I myself do not associate the excellence (or perhaps lack thereof) of University of Utah, where I am a full professor, with the success or lack thereof of one sport program that my students pay on average 7 cents for every tuition dollar to support.

    I am proud that our new president started at the U. as an assistant professor. He will have the right priorities for a true academic institution.

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    Oct. 25, 2012 6:59 p.m.

    I would say both teams just happened to hit some down years at a bad time. There is no question in my mind that the Utah and BYU teams of 2-3 years ago would have much better records playing this season's schedules. Those teams didn't have the inconsistencies and questions that both teams have had at the QB position. And, hey, QB is a very important position on the field.

    Both teams will be fine. They may not challenge for undefeated seasons every year, but what team does? There isn't a team out there that doesn't go through some tough years.

  • SportsFann Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 25, 2012 5:23 p.m.

    Wow! Nothing like kicking them when they are down. I would have to agree that this year is disappointing, but I'm certainly not ready to see BYU and Utah give up the climb. I always respect people who have the guts to set lofty goals. I guess Rock doesn't get that. It's so easy to sit back and throw the darts from your chair and computer. Keep going Cougars and Utes...ignore the little man who is afraid of dreams.