Indiana candidate: God at work when rape leads to pregnancy

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  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 25, 2012 6:17 a.m.

    Re: LDS Liberal Farmington, UT

    Trying to put words that aren't there into the mouths of Republicans won't change the fact that we believe in the sanctity of life but fully approve of abortions in specific cases that include rape, the life of the mother, incest, and birth defects.

    Why that should irritate the the liberal left who believe in abortions for any reason or no reason at all is beyond me.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 1:31 p.m.

    LDS Liberal
    Farmington, UT

    "The GOP Platform is NOT in harmony with the Church."

    Thanks for your comments. Guessing that this is a long-term disagreement with rifleman?

    My Thoughts: Noone in their right mind can consider any political party the same as a church. I am a registered republican and a delegate, but I think both parties have some really stupid and short-sighted platforms. The most dangerous individuals are those that agree with everything a party writes down. Those individuals are neither thinking, nor don't have an active braincell. That makes it a party of one(voter).

    Noone in their right mind thinks that there is a "true party." 60 years ago, Utah was a strong democrat state, and the second "great evil" that created the republican party was polygamy. The Church had to ask people to join the republican party even though it was not in the short-term interests of the population.

    My opinion is that both parties need each other in order to keep the wackos from the extreme-left or right from accomplishing something really stupid (i.e. Obamacare, or Rumsfield-idiocy)

    Wish you the best and look forward to your thoughts.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Oct. 24, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    To Rifleman, and anyone with the same thinking, please give me an explanation as to why you do not agree. This is a very important issue, and one that makes me typically vote democratic. But if abortion equates to murder, then please give a rational and believable explanation as to why it is then okay to "murder," as a lot of conservatives like to term it, a child conceived by rape or incest, or when the life of the mother is at stake.

    I'm waiting!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 12:14 p.m.

    Official GOP Party Platform Rifleman:

    "Faithful to the "self-evident" truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed"

    "We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment's protections apply to unborn children."


    No abortions,
    not for ANY reason
    under any circumstances Rifleman -- read it, because it's YOUR Party's official platform.

    That goes against MY religion,
    and I assume it goes against yours as well.
    and that explains why I can never be a Republican.

    You might want to reconsider one who's side of the line you are really standing on.

    [LDS policy is
    Life and Health of the Woman,
    and Viability of the fetus.

    The GOP Platform is NOT in harmony with the Church.]

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 12:04 p.m.

    I think you are right most people know that this is not the view of all republicans and hopefully this is an area where those within the GOP that do not agree will push back against people like this as you have done today.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 24, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    Re: LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    "Then you aren't a Republican because this is precisely the GOP Party's Platform."

    You couldn't be more wrong. That isn't the thinking of conservative Republicans and the most cynical liberals know that very well.

    B-T-W, the latest RCP electoral map shows:
    Romney 206, Obama 201.

    How in the world did that ever happen?

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    As a republican, but most importantly a U.S. Citizen, I wouldn't vote for someone that would say something so stupid. The results of a butal, and cowardly rape IS NOT A GIFT FROM GOD! A child is the natural results of sex (forced or unforced). I see no reason that a woman should have to be reminded of the act, for the next 9-months, and everytime she looks at her child.

    I don't know what God would want in these cases, and those that claim to know, DON'T. Each case is different. It is between the woman, and her God. It is her decision. She must tragically decide to undergo an abortion, adoption, or keeping the child. None of these choices are easy.

    I really hate stupid short-sighted political comments. I wonder if this politican is willing to pay for the woman and child's welfare for the next 80 years?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 9:46 a.m.

    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't agree with this one.


    Then you aren't a Republican because this is precisely the GOP Party's Platform.

    FYI Rifleman - Many Democrats don't agree with the Democratic Party Platform either. But the fact is, this IS the GOP party's official stance.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 8:42 a.m.

    Rifleman: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion."

    But not every opinion deserves to be represented in the Senate. As a Hoosier expat, I was never that thrilled with Dick Lugar (preferred Bayh), but I respected him as a sensible, rational person, even if I differed with him on policy. I fear for my home state now.

    editing flame: "It was not clear what _affect_, if any, Mourdock's comment might have during the final two weeks before the Nov. 6 election."
    How did the Associated Press editors let that one slip through?

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 24, 2012 6:21 a.m.

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't agree with this one. It is one of the cases when the LDS Church believes an abortion is appropriate. I happen to agree with them.