BYU football: Tom Holmoe fulfilling vision of independent scheduling

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  • BYUfaninWashSt Everett, WA
    Oct. 23, 2012 7:39 p.m.

    Get some decent coaches that know how to implement a passing game and a QB that can hit the mark. Then Holmoe might sustain some hope for what is currently, a less than mediocre program.

  • wYo8 Rock Springs, WY
    Oct. 23, 2012 5:32 p.m.

    Lark could be the answer for the yellowjackets. But after this game it should be about preparing Munns for next year even for a backup role. Just look up at the School North Of Town. They have a true freshman playing instead of an average qb.

  • mightymite DRAPER, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    We win 50% of all the big games almost 5% of the time. Go Cougs.

  • Old ball coach Sandy, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 2:54 p.m.

    Notre Dame will become an ACC team, leaving BYU out to die off.....better get in with a conference soon...or Cougar fans will have to be lucky to play NMSU, Texas State, Northern Arizona, UTSA, Weber State, SUU, etc....

    If they continue to play the way they have on ESPN lately, ESPN will take back their generosity and money as well...nobody is interested in 13-6 games on Thursday or Friday nights!

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Oct. 23, 2012 2:31 p.m.

    Belonging to a conference means your football schedule is mostly set.
    An independent has to find 12 opponents every year.

    Who knows, they could get a Notre Dame-ACC type of deal.

    Ditch the ESPN contract, or wait for it to run out, and find a conference that will take BYU.

  • DodgerDoug Salem, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 1:06 p.m.

    I love independence and the wide range of teams the Cougars have and will be able to play. Holmoe has done a great job with the schedule. Now we need wins against these teams. I am very disappointed in our coach and our QB who continue to make up excuses for bad football (speaking of the offense). And I am tired of a head coach and QB who hate the fans. Sure, fans can be hard on you and even stupid at times. I see them every game and and am one myself at times, but remember, we are fans, we, the fans are the only reason you get to play in that 60,000 seat stadium, we get to shell out the money to support the football program and your free-ride for school. So if coach and QB could show a little more class and respect for the fans that would be nice... even if you don't mean it.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    I love playing these better teams and if we don't beat ourselves we should win them.

  • SyracuseCoug Syracuse, ut
    Oct. 23, 2012 12:53 p.m.

    I would prefer to be in a BCS Conference, even the Big East is looking better and better. There just isn't anything to play for in Independence after one loss. At least in a conference, you can look forward to a conference titla and a bowl game. All we have now is a crappy bowl game to look forward to.

  • dalefarr South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 23, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    I do not think independence has been all that great. Almost none of the games are on Saturday afternoon in LES so I did not renew my season tickets. Our football coaches have not been able to meet the challenge of playing better teams. The bowl opportunities are way below average. I prefer being in a conference.

  • IndeMak South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 11:02 a.m.

    Conference is still the way to go. It means that every game has significance even if it is a team like UNLV or New Mexico State. The Big East must be sounding better and better for the time being for the fans and for the players. Independent scheduling does not allow for any rivalries. Notre Dame has build a few rivalries because they play teams like USC, Navy, Boston College nearly every year for the past 70 plus years. BYU plays New Mexico State and San Jose nearly every year but that is not the rivaly BYU wants. Also doesn't allow for good bowl games. I don't see it happening this year but if Utah wins the last three home games and their game with Colorado, they still get a better bowl than BYU. Shows the unfairness in college football.

  • RockOn Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 10:31 a.m.

    Learn from Notre Dame... keep your stadium focused on the team and not a blizzard of advertisements. Those ribbons are annoying and useless except to flash obnoxious colors and shapes while trying to watch the game. And having the PA announcer be a shill for companies sponsoring "this 1st down sponsored by CarFax" and "it's another State Farm 3rd down." Shameful and degrading. Notre Dame has ZERO ads in the stadium and no phony announcers -- it's all focused on football.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Oct. 23, 2012 10:25 a.m.

    BYU should try to get a deal with the BigEast like Notre Dame has with the ACC. We get to remain independent, but we play 5 games against BigEast opponents. Boise State and SDSU would then be every year opponents with a rotation against Houston, SMU, Louisville, Rutgers, and Navy. This would be good for BYU and good for the BigEast.

    I'd also like to see Utah State, Hawaii and Air Force every year. This would then leave BYU with four open slots for teams like Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Nebraska and Texas.

  • Cougar Passion Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 9:53 a.m.

    No, we fans can actually live with losing to Top 10 teams if we feel we have exhausted every possibility to try to beat them. What has many of us up in arms is that we have another senior quarterback who is probably a better passer sitting on the bench--and better passes might very well have made this team undefeated right now. Given how many times we have seen the coaching staff apologize after the fact for mistakes in judgment--including playing Riley Nelson while hurt for two games this year--we want to see them address problems *now* and take a chance on James Lark. It would certainly not be the first time that a guy sitting on the bench ended up being the better quarterback on the field. Even Brandon Doman knows that from his own experience.

  • Bleed Crimson Sandy, Utah
    Oct. 23, 2012 9:20 a.m.

    Another article to reassure BYU fans of their terrible position in the College Football world.

  • Elmer Fudd Sandy, Utah
    Oct. 23, 2012 9:10 a.m.

    "BYU football: Tom Holmoe fulfilling vision of independent scheduling"

    If Tom Holmoe is satisfied with a one loss season and going to a third tier Macaroni and Cheese Bowl every year. Then I say mission accomplished!

    Atta boy Holmoe!

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    We win almost all of these big games so I hope Holmoe keeps them on the schedule. Other big teams like to play us to see how they measure up.

  • news.john2 Orem, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 8:34 a.m.

    I still think football independence will prove to be the best path for eventually getting rid of football altogether.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 7:58 a.m.

    I like having the tougher schedule. Coach Edwards' teams would have had problems against these teams. The National Championship team or Utah's best team would not have bean undefeated against this schedule. They beat noone that was even close to Oregon State or Notre Dame's quality (except maybe UT vs TCU). BYU has played very well against these teams, and BYU finally has a defense.

    BYU started the year with at least two good QBs, but was unable to defend them because of a bad, and injured offensive line. BYU should not have risked a freshman QB to that line. They should have played Lark and let him get injured; not risk the future QB, and a red-shirt year.

    Riley hasn't ever had the greatest arm, but in the second half of the post-injury games his passes have been weak. His back may be fine at the beginning of the game, but after a couple hits and a half of playing football, he has problems.

    Lark (or someone that can throw the long-ball) should have played the last couple offensive series. I am still a Riley fan, but he is still hurting.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Oct. 23, 2012 7:22 a.m.

    Good News, Bad News:

    Good news: Nobody at the beginning of the season anticipated that ND and OSU would be undefeated and top-10 ranked by the time they got to play BYU.

    Bad News: Playing top-10 teams respectably while losing is not enough. There are no moral victories. BYU needs quality wins. Why?

    1) The fan base and TV contracts will diminish if they continue to put out a sub-par program.
    2) If they continue to be a laughing stock opponent among good teams, they will no longer be able to schedule good teams, because BCS teams are looking for strength of schedule, and BYU will bring that down.

    Oct. 23, 2012 7:16 a.m.

    "It's great to play teams like Notre Dame, Texas, and Wisconsin, and it makes for a great trip for the fans. But unless BYU starts winning some of these high-profile games it will end up hurting BYU's program in the long run."

    That's definitely true though the argument could also be made BYU is a QB from having a couple of high profile wins this season. So, while next season could prove extremely difficult I feel better about Hill at QB against Notre Dame than I do Nelson against GT this coming weekend.

  • Parkite1 Park City, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 6:49 a.m.

    Shame he isn't fulfilling bringing BYU back into national prominenece as an elite football program the way it was for many year under Lavell Edwards. Shame he hasn't replaced Bronco with a gutsy, determined coach who treats all players the same and yanks any player when they don't perform. A contract doesn't saying "Winning" is part of the job but it is inherently the #1 goal of any coach. I want a coach that when he has a great program like he has the last two years does everythign to be undefeated or finish the season with 1 loss, that's means yanking ANY player at any point in the game. I want a coach who beats Utah 56-6, 9 in a row and 19 of 21, and doesn't allow blowouts at home like: FSU, BSU, Utah, Nevada, and Oregon St. have done in the last three years!

  • Two For Flinching Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 12:38 a.m.

    It's great to play teams like Notre Dame, Texas, and Wisconsin, and it makes for a great trip for the fans. But unless BYU starts winning some of these high-profile games it will end up hurting BYU's program in the long run.