High school football: UHSAA overturns previous decision, says East High does not have to forfeit games

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  • Tiggerr Orem, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 10:25 p.m.

    Look, the real story is that Timpview admitted that they had 30 transfers into their football program. That is the problem, screwing up the paperwork is the incompetence and symptom of the problem. UHSAA has proven to be a joke, and some very well articulated comments above mine talk about the injustice to the teams that didn't break the rules. Also, just a side note, to have Rod Zundel interviewing the East coach and crying for joy that East is getting rewarded for cheating is a joke!!! Can all of you take a step back and see this in it's clear light. High School sports should be about as pure and exciting as "The Sandlot" portrayed it to be. We are prostituting our ethics in a Win at ALL Costs approach to the great game of football. Someone get the state of sports fixed in Utah, it obviously isn't the UHSAA!!

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 8:34 p.m.

    It sounds like the only schools that actually got punished were:

    Salem Hills and Springville: Since their football teams aren't as good and because of a unfortunate schedule having played Timpview at the wrong time of the season, were eliminated from the playoffs. I guess their "rights" to play weren't important.

    Herriman--your reward for winning your region is to play East.

    Logan--your reward is to play Timpview.

    Cyprus--Never mind...

    Other winners besides East: Well Box Elder probably gets to play Maple Mountain who is a much weaker team than Orem.

    Mountain View--good news, you were lucky enough to play Timpview with their illegal player--you get to go to state and get to play East.

    Maple Mountain now gets a home game with Box Elder instead of going to Logan.

    Can the UHSAA actually explain the logic of all this? I am not getting it...

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 8:06 p.m.

    So let me get this straight, the two schools that got the most punished were Springville and Salem Hills who got eliminated from their chance to compete for a playoff chance because they were unlucky enough to play Timpview later in the season.

    Then there is Herriman who by winning their region gets to play East, who let's face it might still be the best team in the state.

    Then there is Box Elder who instead of playing Orem, a proven inferior team to TImpview, now gets to play Timpview.

    Is there no wonder people have lost faith in the UHSAA as a legitimate organization to protect the integrity of high school athletics.

    What do East and get Timpview get as result of breaking the rules, a slap on the wrist while four other schools become collateral damage with two losing their right or chance to compete in the tournament so East's could be restored. What about these kids whose programs ACTUALLY did nothing wrong at all?

    Give me a break, what a joke!

  • xyloguy SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 7:14 p.m.

    Decision is not fair especially for Timpview who is going through the exact same motions right now and had to forfeit their own games. Leave it to the UHSAA to uphold their own rule!

  • slcftball Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 5:20 p.m.

    Uhsaa has no spine

    Guess Timpview should have had their coaches and players there crying pulling at their heart strings....

  • satch Highland, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:51 p.m.

    How is Eric Mika different than the kid at East who attended a charter school. Both lived in boundaries, went to a different high school (charter/private) then wanted to return to their original high school.

    East has a great team but for whatever reason they had administrators and coaches who did not follow rules that they knew about. The precedence is set now that other school may have the same argument.

    How is too that Timpview had to vacate their wins? How does East get a free pass? Just doesn't make sense.

  • Tiggerr Orem, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:47 p.m.

    As a High School coach I do feel sympathy for the boys that ALMOST got punished. But, the real story in this mess is what we learned from the Timpview Principal Mckee. He said that they only messed up on 1 of the 30 football transfers they had at TV. 30 Football Transfers. 30 Football Transfers. This is why Provo is 0-10 and high school sports are out of control. The pageant moms and dads are allowing the "Win at all Costs" mentality to ruin the sport at it's greatest level. High School sports were once so pure and magnificent. Now all of the other schools like Orem are having to cheat also so that they can compete with TV. I am sure West and Highland feel the same way up in SLC. The media needs to pick up on this story and publicize it more that the tears of many great athletes and coaches that got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

  • Just my opinion Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:42 p.m.

    Everyone plays a region schedule to first make the playoffs, second to have a higher seed.

    The reason the higher seeds matters is first for a home game, second to play a lower seed in the first rounds to give yourself a better chance to move deaper in the playoffs.

    By allowing Timpview and East to remain in the playoffs but lower the playoff seed they get, it has just changed everything in the playoffs for all the other teams. Instead of a true #1's vs #4's, and #2's vs #3's. We now have all sorts of other match ups. So all the work all the other teams put in to win the games they did have all gone out the window.

    14 other 4A teams with about 50 plus varsity players each equals 700 plus players that are being punished for following the rules.

    So instead of 100 plus players being hurt by the 5 players that should not have been playing 700 plus are being hurt by the UHSAA so called punishment.

    Someone will win the playoffs, but no one will know what would have happened because of those two schools.

  • So Utah Fan St George, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:24 p.m.

    Hey UHSAA can Snow Canyon Baseball have it's Region Title back from last year? We said please.

  • Uteswin! Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:19 p.m.

    What a joke.....UHSAA is allowing the Charter Schools to be an "eligibility clearing house" to bypass the rules in place....East knows exactly what they are doing when they are placing kids from other boundaries in these Charter Schools so they can "hyrbernate for a year or two" and the UHSAA just cleared the path for every school to do this....6k penalty is a cheap amount to pay to build a "State Championship" caliber team.

  • TD71 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:19 p.m.

    Herriman tis is your reward for winning the coin flip...

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    This is a surprise

    Certainly not consistent with some past eligibility issues around the state

  • MINER PRIDE south jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:00 p.m.

    * 3 best teams for 4a.

  • just sayin' Woods Cross, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:58 p.m.

    Nice spine UHSAA. Doesn't matter, WX will come out on top! Oh yeah Let's get it on!! GO WX GO CATS TAKE STATE!!

  • Rational Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:55 p.m.

    So let's get this straight:

    East, which EVERYONE agrees broke rules, still gets into the playoffs, but their punishment is a 4th place seed.

    This punishes another 1st place seed by making THEIR first game against another 1st place team (East). So rather than having a first-round against an easier opponent, so their kids can get out the jitters, get some playoff experience before they move to the next round against a tougher opponent, they get to play one of the top ranked teams in their classification.

    UHSAA is, without doubt, one of the least logical or credible organizations I can think of.

  • MINER PRIDE south jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:46 p.m.

    what i dont get is how they let east back in the playoffs and yet still had timpview forfeit the 4 games because now u have the 3 best teams in the state(arguably 4) on the same side of the bracket!

  • cvguy Lehi, Utah
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:42 p.m.

    Well done East High boosters. It would be nice if the UHSAA would consistently apply their rules. It would be even better if their rules weren't so lame.

  • 4BS St George, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:37 p.m.

    The UHSAA are a bunch of hypocrites. By not applying the rules consistently across the board they have opened up a can worms for the future. What a joke.

  • RTURN598 south jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:33 p.m.

    heck yea! as a timpview fan, im glad east gets to play in the playoffs. cant figure out whos the best in the state if the best dont play! i now have a renewed excitement for the 4a playoffs!