GOP pounces after news of CIA cable on Libya raid

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  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 25, 2012 6:30 a.m.

    Re: mark Salt Lake City, UT
    "Game over rifleman. If that happens Obama wins going away."

    Then Obama and his campaign staff have nothing to worry about. Right??

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2012 4:08 p.m.

    Rifleman, do you guys never present anything accurately? You know, the full picture?

    You need 270 electoral votes to win the election. RCP shows 131 electoral votes are a toss up, such as Ohio where Obama still has a lead (granted smaller). I still think Obama is going to win. When it comes right down to it I don't think people like Romney. He comes off as smarmy. And I think there will be enough people that notice the full change in positions that he takes, and what appears to be a tendency to say whatever he thinks will get him what he needs at the moment. A used car salesman. But yeah, it's a close race.

    You know what else I think is going to happen? Obama is going to send in seal team six a few days before the election to take out the people that attacked the consulate.

    Game over rifleman. If that happens Obama wins going away.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 24, 2012 11:26 a.m.

    Re: mark Salt Lake City, UT

    Romney was smart not to overplay Obama's problem with the attack on our consulate in Libya. The latest RCP electoral count is Romney 206, Obama 201.

    How in the world did Obama allow that to happen?

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 5:38 p.m.

    AZ Rods, you really aren't being very accurate in what you are presenting.

    But be that as it may, I find it interesting that you are more then willing to blame the previous president for an attack that happened nine months into President Bush's term, but I've seen you make arguments that President Obama is responsible for everything that has happened since day one of his term. In fact you do it right in your post: another "it's Bush's fault".

    So you are more then willing to say it's Clinton's fault, yet you don't want people to point out when it's Bush's fault. Interesting.

  • AZRods Maricopa, AZ
    Oct. 23, 2012 1:00 p.m.

    So for all the GWB bashing, how long had he been president?
    Clinton was the president during the time 9/11 was being planned and arranged.
    An attack of this magnitude takes months and years to prepare.
    Clinton was too busy playing with his new toy and pushing military strength to the bottom of the ladder.
    Bush walked in the door when no one knew of the impending attack.
    Nice try to putting another 'It's Bush fault" into the history books.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 23, 2012 7:27 a.m.

    Romney did not get the memo.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 22, 2012 10:51 p.m.

    "Obama has spent more on this war and lost more American lives in 4 years in Afghanistan than Bush did with two wars in 7 years."

    Uh. . . SS, you are wrong.

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Oct. 22, 2012 1:06 p.m.

    @ The Skeptical Chymist,

    You probably won't read this because it is so late, but Obama has spent more on this war and lost more American lives in 4 years in Afghanistan than Bush did with two wars in 7 years. So I think this is a perfect place of comparison to show exactly how inefficient Obama is. I can't believe you even try to make that argument.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 21, 2012 12:12 a.m.

    You know, I am going to laugh so hard when a couple of days before the election President Obama orders that great SEAL team six in to take these guys out. Election over, Obama wins in a landslide, go home Mitt. Tell me you guys really don't see that coming. HaHa, you guys are gonna be crying, I'll tell you what. Goodnight lyin' Ryan and don't let the door hit you on the way out Mitt.

    Classic! And you guys are walking right into it. Didn't anybody tell you? You don't play politics with foreign policy. See ya!

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 2:41 p.m.

    A person with intelligence experience would not credit with what the President said in the Rose Garden as the truth if the Administration personnel, who are hired by the Obama Administration led people to think it was a mob riot. Those weapons were high powered and precise hits that just any person on the street could not perform, especially with the rage they had in their blood that morning.

    They were hired hit men who made an exact display of what they wanted with our drone overhead validating what was happening.

    No matter how the President skews this, hiding behind Mrs. Clinton or Mrs. Rice,he did not act with his duty under the Constitution of the United States of America.

    Israel is probably hoping that this President doesn't get elected again, either. They can perform alot of what they need to do but they do need a nation who helps support them against all their neighbors.

    You can't make peace unless you have an upper hand and these nations know that fact after thousands of years of fighting between themselves.

    When the old Libyan leader told us he had chemical weapons, he didn't think this happens.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 20, 2012 1:34 p.m.

    From the Wall Street Journal 9/21/2012:

    “In the days before Sept. 11, intelligence agencies issued their annual warning of heightened security risks around the anniversary of the 2001 attacks. Many counterterrorism officials saw a lessened risk this year than last year, which was the 10th anniversary and the first one after the killing of Osama bin Laden.
    In Libya, embassy personnel conducted a security review right before the anniversary. It determined there was no reason to think an attack was planned or the consulate in Benghazi was "insufficiently postured," said a senior administration official.”
    The article also reported that security at the Libyan consulate included "a four-man team of armed guards protecting the perimeter and four unarmed Libyan guards inside to screen visitors." The Journal also noted: "Besides the four armed Libyans outside, five armed State Department diplomatic security officers were at the consulate."

    Obama, interviewed by Steve Kroft (“60 Minutes”) 14 hrs after the Benghazi attack for a previously scheduled interview, told Kroft he did not believe it was like what happened in Egypt, a result of mob violence, but that probably the individuals were targeting Americans from the start.

  • Kalindra Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 20, 2012 1:10 p.m.

    your amazed by what liberals will believe yet you admit he did say terror at a speech in the rose garden that was about the benghazi attacks and you want to believe it may have been about 9/11 or some other random act? interesting.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    Thank goodness that others have joined into this forum today, even though some are out hunting to keep their 2nd amendment rights active.

    We live in a country that has a Constitution that should be permenant in thought and attitude. Thank goodness, also, that people chose to have Amendments as a form to change important issues.

    Our President wants to show people of the world that we are not a good people from the past until the present. He needs to have feelings of Insiring the People and not make them devisive.

    When the mother of one of the deceased embassy employees doesn't want her son politicized, that is good. However, it is the President of the United States of America that politicized this whole event. He should have been honest upfront and admit that his administration chose not to provided adequate protection for the last six months before the attack. He used a video that had been out for 3-months to highlight that it was a religious motivated act of a riot and not terrorism.

    He lambasted our dedicated Intelligence personnel and system and made the USA look like idiots. He did not fulfill his Constitutional responsibilities.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 11:10 a.m.

    This is just not a Benghazi issue. It is the same type of issue at many and most United States of America Embassies around the world. There is terrorism everywhere and not just in terrorist type countries. Russia, China and other countries have terrorists that don't represent their country that those countries are fighting on a daily basis. We just don't hear about them. The United States, ever since 9/11 has been in jeopardy of having the same issue. We have spent Billions upon Billions of United States of America money, personnel and efforts to protect United States of America type citizens in our on country. However, our highest U.S. diplomats overseas don't have that same type of protection. The President spent $200M a day when he went to India for his security. Thank goodness or we would have O'Biden for a President and that would be more than a disaster. Who would he pick as his VP?

    This is an Obama issue, completely. He was an not a leader. He had surrogates, Czars and pundits be the leaders and not coordinated in any effort. Re-Election is all he has thought about forever.

  • Millsap fan Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 9:55 a.m.


    The fact of the matter is Obama is responding like a weakling to terrorism! Why should we have to try and interpret what he meant? Why didn't he say in plain words from day one: this attack in Libya against our ambassador was a terrorist attack. Instead he apologizes for an amatuer cartoon from college idiots!? As president he should defend our unalienable rights. You know the ones this country was built on. LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Those terrorists infringed on four heroes rights that day and did it on American soil. They need to pay. They need to know that we wont apologize for being Americans. A strong president would've responded that way. It's definitely time for a president with courage.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 9:11 a.m.

    This is worse for the United States of America than the Watergate or the Clinton impeachment by the House of Representatives. The incompetence and then coverup with a video excuse by the President and Mrs. Clinton and Mrs. Rice is a disgrace for our nation. It lowers our diplomatic relations, if we had any in this situation. The biggest debacle for our nation is the loss of credibility with our Intelligence men and women and Agencies in large numbers that are impacted by this highest level ineptitude. Lack of Integrity at the highest order for these top leaders of all the Intelligence agencies and the Chief Executive of the nation and the Commander-in-Chief. This is not like being in the fields of the Civil War nor the trenches of World War I. We have so many normal and the highest order of technology that assist our great men and women who put their lives on the line everyday.

    The Fast and Furious was an indication of our failure in foreign relations. The Mexican government should be furious with us that we provided high powered weapons that could be used AGAINST Mexicans and their government by people we empowered.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 8:24 a.m.

    Non-believer, what now.
    you are confusing cause and effect.

    Sure the attacks of 9/11/01 occured while bush was president, but they are the result of slick willy's gross malfeasance. slick had at least three opportunities to take out OBL, but he was otherwise occupied trying to cover-up his own scandals. Had slick actually done his job, 9/11 would not have happened.

    And no one is holding him accountable for the attacks on the USS Cole,and two US embassies in Africa.

  • Bill in Nebraska Maryville, MO
    Oct. 20, 2012 8:09 a.m.

    It is amazing how much the left will believe. Yea, Mr. Obama, a total fool, did say, "an act of terror", the day after. What he is refering to could have been the fact 9/11 anniversary had just taken place or it could have been the Libya attack. It really depends on who wants to take a shot at the speach. Fact is that for weeks Mr Obama and his administration called it a protest gone wrong. Fact that it was blamed on a video in Egypt and Libya. Fact a video that MOST Americans had not even heard of until the so called protests took place. Fact that the Ambassador had no US military protection. Fact that Mr Obama relied on local security.

    Fact these attacks on American Embassy's are acts of WAR. You want a President who panders to our enemies, who basically has contempt for the US Constitution, who caresless for American idealogy, then by all means vote for a fool. As for me I will vote for someone that will have the courage to say what it is and do what is right.

  • KTC John Wetumpka, AL
    Oct. 20, 2012 8:08 a.m.

    This AP article is far too easy on Obama. For instance, the following statement: "Republicans have offered no explanation for why the president would want to conceal the nature of the attack." It is now self-evident, if not from the start, that the Obama administration used the video claim in an attempt to cover up two truths: (1) Obama's administration totally ignored over a period of months numerous desperate and meritorious requests for added security in Benghazi, which ignoring resulted in the deaths of 4 Americans;(2) terrorists were not "on their heels" as a result of Obama's foreign policy, but rather his ineptness in foreign policy was a major factor in the proliferation of terrorist groups throughout the Middle East.

  • Amazed Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 5:41 a.m.

    BIGGEST disappoinment of this election is the willingness of a candidate for the Presidency of the United States of America to sit in the same chair as SNOOKI and explain US Foreign Policy, The Economy, or any other topic. How on earth did Comedy Central, The View, Letterman or Leno get to this point?

  • AmPatriot Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 20, 2012 4:46 a.m.

    What I don't get is why isn't congress impeaching this fake president? He has committed more than his share of crimes breaking laws of treasonous acts and killing people just for the fun of it than any man on death row has done and yet no one cares? It's the president rights to arrest, kill, and murder at will?

    Impeachment is too good for Obama and hoping and waiting for this man to walk away and escape justice is too much to comprehend and overlook. Obama arrests a man for his freedom of speech and gets away with breaking the laws yet no one is making this man accountable for his terrorism on america and the American people.

    Obama should not be absolved of his crime because of his race. This man has grossly abused his powers and put asunder the many years of peace and prosperity in the world for personal financial gain and we joke about his contempt and lies for american law?

    We don't deserve to be a free people anymore, and we aren't.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 20, 2012 12:56 a.m.

    From the NY Times "Benghazi story: Why private security wasn't around."

    "For the State Department, the security situation in Libya came down in part to the question of whether it was a war zone or just another African outpost."

    I would recommend this article to those interested in this topic, as it provides a picture of some of the security issues in Benghazi.

    DN obviously is just going to print stories about the politics of it and not try to inform or educate readers.

  • Tyler Ray Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 11:41 p.m.

    Our own Jason Chaffetz and others have discovered that the ambassador himself had written numerous reports to Washington concerning the increase in terrorist activity and pleaded for extra security.

    Now we find out that the White House has known that militants were involved and this was NOT a protest.

    I'm a Republican but I never thought Obama would sink this low. This is shameful.

  • Millsap fan Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 11:18 p.m.

    This is an insane situation! Obama has a lot of explaining to do! I am no conspirator. But there are things that scare me about him. This is a huge "bump in the road."

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 19, 2012 10:20 p.m.

    This whole debate is a joke.

    Pres Obama in Las Vegas, Sept 13:

    "And we want to send a message all around the world — anybody who would do us harm: No act of terror will dim the light of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world, and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the United States of America."

    In CO, the same day, he again said "no act of terror will go unpunished" when referring to the deaths "our fellow Americans."

    NY Times reporters stated attackers, recognized as members of a local militant group called Ansar al-Shariah, did tell bystanders that they were attacking the compound because they were angry about the video.

    There is still uncertainty as to how far in advance planning for the attack took place and many believe it was planned only hours earlier, taking advantage of the uprisings elsewhere. In essence, it was connected to the videos and uprisings although there was no apparent protest in Libya.

    Add this to the list of Republican witch hunts. Its just what Republicans do when a Democrat gets elected president.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 10:10 p.m.

    @mountain man
    what lie? you all keep making these claims but I have yet to see one shred of evidence to support your claims.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 10:09 p.m.


    The highest unemployment has actually ever been was 23.9%. Another little interesting fact is that the unemployment rates was above 10% for ten straight months in 1982 and 1983, Do you know how was president at the time?

    the number of people on welfare is actually about 10% of the population not nearly half

    approximately 48% of children receive reduced or free lunch not two thirds.

    when you cannot even get basic facts straight after the same errors have been pointed out to you time and again we have to ask who's defense of their position is "amazingly" poor.

  • A1994 Centerville, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 9:49 p.m.

    Either they covered it up or they are extraordinarily incompetent. There is no reason to keep the Obama administration for another term. This is ridiculous.

  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 7:55 p.m.

    To SS:

    Yes, after he was caught unprepared on 9/11, after ignoring repeated warnings from Richard Clark, Mr. Tennant, and others, Bush declared war 9 days later, and never managed to do anything useful in Afghanistan. He let Osama get away at Tora Bora. Then he declared war on a nation that was completely uninvolved (Iraq), under false pretenses (WMD).

    I would MUCH prefer it if my commander in chief took his time, got his facts straight, and then took care of the problem in the most efficient way possible. That does NOT mean spending trillions on one war that was totally unnecessary and another that was prosecuted very poorly.

    If you want to compare Obama's performance on this one with Bush's performance, be my guest. I'll take President Obama any day!

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 19, 2012 5:06 p.m.

    @ What now. I am pretty sure if GWB got a call(cable from the CIA) that the embassy was about to be overun, he would have done something, anything to save their lives instead of ignoring it then lying about it.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 5:00 p.m.

    Most of the above comments are against blaming our government for a coverup...even though I knew it was a terrorist attack before the White House supposedly did. That's an attempted cover-up for sure. Of course the Pres. would like not to have this huge mistake come up now, right before the election. Its just incredible that anyone would side with Pres. Obama not owning up until 14 days after the tragedy.

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:55 p.m.

    For everyone who is comparing this to 9/11 to make Republicans/George Bush look bad, look at the facts.

    Bush may have been told that there was an impending attack, but he was not told where or how.
    Obama was told EXACTLY where he needed to send more defense, but still didn't.

    Bush declared war 9 days after the attacks on the World Trade Centers.
    It took 14 days for Obama to stop blaming the attacks in Libya on a YOUTUBE video.
    He may have mentioned the word terror once the day after, but then didn't refer to it for another TWO WEEKS.

    Now, we are seeing that the CIA had given Washington information the day after that it was an attack by militants, but for the next 12 days Obama calls it a protest that got out of hand over a youtube video and you Democrats don't think that is important?

    I see that it is very important news. Just because it makes your boy look bad doesn't mean it's not news.

    And saying that we are beating a dead horse is very disrespectful to those who died, and their families.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:46 p.m.

    Yes, we should harp on:

    * four killed Americans in Libya
    * men, women, and children being killed by Mexican cartels using over two and a half thousand American weapons which passed through ATF.
    * the theft of GM.
    * record high use of food stamps, and unemployment.
    * having half our people on welfare, and two thirds of our school children on reduced, or free lunch.

    Amazing how some people will defend the commander. Low expectations, or a desire for socialism? Go figure!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:44 p.m.

    Obama has already made his position clear...sort of.
    He claimed at the last debate that he KNEW the attack was by terrorists. Right? That's what he wanted us all to believe.
    So if that was the case, all the dancing around the issue for two weeks what what? A campaign stunt?
    He's going to have to own up to his behavior one way or another. There is no voting "present" on this one, Mr. President.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:31 p.m.

    All right-wing folks.

    Please bring verifiable documentation of your daily prosecution and moral outrage of everything Bush did, did not do, knew, did not know, acted, failed to act, regarding 9/11 when nearly 3000 Americans were murdered on American soil while a Republican sat in The White House.

    Until you bring, at least, that documentation, your daily headlong rush to partisan judgement is simply that and nothing more.

    Thank you.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:23 p.m.

    what cover up, what scandal? Obama called it an act of terror the day after it happened. Its desperation time with the right, we will see if it works out any better for them this time then four years ago.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:19 p.m.

    To Mountainman

    You see this as an intentional coverup, I see it as an investigation with people now in custody and an full accounting of events still moving forward.

    On April 10, 2004, the Bush White House declassified that daily brief — and only that daily brief —in response to pressure from the 9/11 Commission, which was investigating the events leading to the attack. Administration officials dismissed the document’s significance, saying that, despite the jaw-dropping headline, it was only an assessment of Al Qaeda’s history, not a warning of the impending attack. While some critics considered that claim absurd, a close reading of the brief showed that the argument had validity.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:13 p.m.

    They've only got this one dead horse to keep trying to keep in the race. You'd think they had a binder full of them.

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:07 p.m.

    To Rifleman

    Our ambassador was tortured, raped, murdered and then dragged through the streets.

    Then why is there a video of good samaritans finding him in the back room of the embassy, still alive and rushing him to the hospital? This is very well documented, you should look it up! Fear mongering only works on the weak minded!

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 19, 2012 4:00 p.m.

    @ non believer. And the cover up of 9/11 was what?

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:51 p.m.

    To Mountainman

    This did happen while a Repulican was in the White House. It's called 9/11 and there were lots of warning signs! Except 3000 American's were killed, not just 4!

  • non believer PARK CITY, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:48 p.m.

    So do we need to start harping on George W Bush and Condoleezza Rice for all of the missed warnings on 9/11? The fact that they allowed over 3000 civilians to be killed on American soil? In a way I do hope Romney is elected just for the " I told you so" moments! Romney's foreign policy stratagist is Dan Senor, who was a Bush advisor at the beginning of the Iraq war! Remember they are going to welcome us with open arms! So Romney is already handicapped with bad policy and will certainly get more American's killed.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:37 p.m.

    If the GOP doesn't hold the White House accountable for this gross malfeasance and coverup attempt, who will? Certainly not themselves nor the media. Imagine the left's 10 alarm hissy fit if this had happened with a Republican in the White House!

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:19 p.m.

    Re: Republicantthinkstraigh Anywhere but, Utah, Utah
    "Give it up already... I feel sorry we lost those great Americans but to continually make it about politics is frankly appalling and disgusting."

    These men asked for security but it was denied because it wouldn't look good politically. Our ambassador was tortured, raped, murdered and then dragged through the streets. Thereafter Obama tried to blame the attack on an anti-Muslim video when he knew better. Hillary Clinton then fell on her sword for Obama.

    No, we aren't about to give it up.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    Republicantthinkstraigh - I second your comments. Can you image if this kind of stuff went on about other crimes, in SLC or Provo. A day, a week or even a month later, the opposition accusing the Mayor of covering up a crime, before even the police investigation is complete, accusing the mayor or governor of having a failed policy on crime.

    For example, where were the partisan cries about the Susan Powell murder, or the later murder of her children. Everyone knew those kids were at risk. Where was the call for the Governor Hubert's accountability, or the Governor of Washington - who ever that is. We didn't hear anything, because everyone knew it would be tasteless to politicize those events.

    But the Lybia event, before the mens bodies were even returned to the state, cries of incompetence and cover up were being raised, before the FBI had even had a chance to investigate. Partisanship has reached now lows.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:06 p.m.


    Yeah, use silk and velvet for your coverups. Keep it classy.

  • Republicantthinkstraigh Anywhere but, Utah, Utah
    Oct. 19, 2012 2:39 p.m.

    Give it up already... I feel sorry we lost those great Americans but to continually make it about politics is frankly appalling and disgusting. For the DNEWS to keep posting stories of this tragic event in order to score political points for Romney is a shame. Stay classy DNEWS.