View from the Booth: Utah Ute fans must keep faith in a quick turnaround for program

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  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 3:28 p.m.


    Not sure why you referenced me in your post as I hadn't even posted on this article but I do enjoy knowing I'm in your head. As always.


  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 19, 2012 1:35 p.m.

    And byU wasn't invited to the PAC because they are....

    7-19 against ASU
    9-13 against AU
    3-7 against UCLA
    0-2 against USC
    0-2 against Stanford and
    2-8 against Colorado OUCH!

    byU will be 0-1 against independents come Saturday too.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Oct. 19, 2012 11:36 a.m.


    The Utes have only managed to finish in the AP Top 25 FIVE times in 76 seasons.
    The Utes have never won a National Championship.
    The Utes have never won a Heisman Trophy.
    The Utes have never won a single national individual award.
    The Utes don't have a single player in the National College Football Hall of Fame.

    The Utes are nothing but pretenders in a big boy conference (4-8)
    The Utes are 0-7 all time against Washington! (BYU is 4-4)
    The Utes are 1-6 all time against the YMCA!

    The Utes are 0-1 in the WAC; 0-3 in the PAC this year (soon to be 0-4)!

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Oct. 18, 2012 9:31 p.m.

    Arlington, VA
    Another little number for you to chew on, RBN:

    Bronco had almost as many AP Top 25 finishes from 2006 to 2009 (four), as Utah has had in its ENTIRE HISTORY (five).


    After 40+ years, BYU has never officially been invited to a major conference!
    BYU is 6-9 all time against San Jose St!
    BYU is 3-8-1 all time against Colorado!

    Oct. 18, 2012 2:44 p.m.


    You have pretty harsh words toward the team that has OWNED your team throughout their football histories. If I'm not mistaken, Utah has defeated "your" team 3 in a row; 4 of the last 5; 8 out of the last 11; and 56-34-4 overall. The defeat 2 years ago in Provo was so thorough that "your" home fans all deserted "your" team after only half of the game was played. Such loyalty.

    But for you to come on to a Ute article to try to trash the Utes shows unbelievable arrogance.


  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    Oct. 18, 2012 2:38 p.m.

    Utah fans:

    1. Like it or not, BYU has done enough in football over the last 35 years that their fans have reason to be proud.

    2. There's playing in the Rose Bowl (as in facing UCLA on the road every other year), then there's playing in the Rose Bowl (as in representing the Pac 12 as its champion). Unfortunately, Utah isn't close to the latter.

    BYU fans:

    1. I know you miss the days of beating up the Utes every year, but those days are gone. "What have you done for me lately" has significance in athletics, and the Utes have won 8 of the last 11, and 13 in the last 20 head to head match ups. The Cougars may win next year's contest, but for now, I like Utah's chances.

    2. Yes, the "BCS is going away," but that doesn't mean what many of you think it means. Membership in big 6 (yes, including the Big East) conferences will continue to be significant, even though the BCS moniker will be retired.


    Good luck, Utes. Please show us the team we expected to see!

    Good luck, BYU. Try to keep it close!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    Oct. 18, 2012 11:58 a.m.


    "It's interesting how the articles on the Utes bring out so much jealousy from BYU fans."


    Jealous of what?

    Utah having a 4-8 record in the PAC?
    Utah having one of the worst offenses in the country?
    A team projected to be a PAC south contender not even qualifying for a bowl?

    Sorry, the interest from BYU fans is the same interest a wreck train wreck draws.

    We saw it with the Utah basketball program - in steady decline since Sweater man left.

    Now we're seeing it with the Utah football program - in steady decline since your high water mark of 2008.

    However, it is humorous watching Utah fans pretending to be excited about their imploding football program.

    Oct. 18, 2012 10:47 a.m.

    It's interesting how the articles on the Utes bring out so much jealousy from BYU fans. I mean, Sports Authority, do you really feel threatened to the point of having to bring up irrelevant statistics from BYU's past? RBN merely pointed out that in head-to-head competition, Utah owns a 13-7 advantage over BYU. And I'd be careful if I were in your shoes trying to pump up BYU at Utah's expense. You do realize, don't you, that Utah holds an all-time 56-34-4 advantage over your mighty cougars.

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Oct. 17, 2012 10:49 p.m.

    Another little number for you to chew on, RBN:

    Bronco had almost as many AP Top 25 finishes from 2006 to 2009 (four), as Utah has had in its ENTIRE HISTORY (five).

  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Oct. 17, 2012 10:39 p.m.


    "How many top ten finishes in the last 20 years..."

    Sorry, but your numbers are off; here are the real numbers:

    BYU - TWO - 1994 and 1996
    Utah - THREE - 1994, 2004, 2008

    How many Top 15 finishes?

    BYU - FIVE - 1994, 1996, 2006, 2007, 2009
    Utah - THREE - 1994, 2004, 2008

    How many Top 25 finishes?

    BYU - EIGHT - 1994, 1996, 2001, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011
    Utah - SIX - 1994, 2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2010

    It's not surprising, however, that you only wanted to look back 20 years, since Utah's Top 25 finishes before 1994 are practically NON-EXISTENT!

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 17, 2012 10:22 p.m.

    Chris B

    The BCS is dead and the Utes are nowhere near ever getting to the Rose Bowl, let alone the playoffs.

    Enjoy being a little fry in a big pond.

    btw, the Utes couldn't even beat a WAC team this year.

    oh, and how many "bcs" opponents has Utah beaten this year?



    As always, beating BYU is all our little brothers care about. Did beating BYU get U into the Top 25 last season? Will beating BYU get U into a bowl game this year?

    Bottom line, unfortunately for U, one game does not a season make.

    BYU #25 Coaches, #26 AP, #34 Sagarin
    Utah UNRANKED, #39 Sagarin

  • BigUtahFan BOUNTIFUL, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 2:13 p.m.

    I was never delusional to think that Utah could make it to the Rose Bowl, but I did have high hopes. If J Wynn would have been the same kid as 2009 Poinsettia Bowl MVP, then Utah would of had a great year.

    I also didn't expect the loss of our Sr. LB's to affect Utah as much as it has done.

    Utah won't make it to a bowl game, but they will get better. I have no doubt!

    GO Utes!

  • Dnquixote Las Vegas, NV
    Oct. 17, 2012 12:54 p.m.

    I think most U fans are pretty optimistic, but a little more realistic from when the season started. Nothing wrong in believing in your team.

    Wilson looks like he has real talent and promise. If this offense can put some points up, they could do better than anyone expects against OSU. This team is still full of talent across the board.

    Utah is just learning about all the little details can come back to bite you. All the details they used to be able to get away with in the MWC.

    Go Utes!

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 10:05 a.m.


    Army and Navy used to be football powers. Ditto for Colorado. They no longer are.

    How many top ten finishes has BYU had in the past 20 years? Lemme answer that for you. One.

    How many top ten finishes for Utah. Three.

    So who's jealous?

    In the past twenty years Utah is 13-7 against BYU. Now we see where that BYU jealousy comes from.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 9:46 a.m.

    christy and swoop,

    Big 12 call yet? And they won't.

    Congrats on your 1 win over BCS teams this year.

    Want to know how many BCS wins BCS bowl teams typically have?

    Somewhere between 8-12

    You're soooooo close!

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 17, 2012 9:00 a.m.


    BYU has been a perennial Top 25 team since 1977 (18 Top 25 finishes in 35 years). Only a jealous Utah fan would try to characterize that a flash in the pan.

    Take a look at BYU's record from 1979 to 1985; then compare that to Utah's record from 2003 to 2009 if you truly want to understand what a flash-in-the-pan Utah was.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 8:51 a.m.

    Christy B,

    The most notable flash in the pan occurred nearly 30 years ago.... in ... say ... 1984.

  • Christy B Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 17, 2012 8:10 a.m.

    "Utah Ute fans must keep faith in a quick turnaround for program"

    Turnaround from what?

    A quick review of Utah's football history reveals that 2004 and 2008 were simply anomalies. Other than those two brief shining moments, Utah football has never been anything more than mediocre - only five AP Top 25 finishes in their entire history and only 6 conference championships in the last half century is proof of that.

    Of course, our friends on the hill would rather shoot the messenger, than accept reality, but such is the life of a flash-in-the-pan, big boy wannabe program.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 7:59 a.m.

    Utah fans who were expecting the Utes to be instant contenders in the PAC are now learning the harsh reality that Utah's two perfect storm seasons were not nearly enough to make the Utes a regular contender in a major conference.

    While it's nice to be able to rub shoulders with a big name program like USC, the truth is, Utah's overall athletic program now faces the same fate as Arizona's, only without Arizona's basketball and baseball programs to take some of the sting out of Arizona not really being all that competitive in football.

    A few losing seasons with no bowls and even the staunchest Utah fans will begin to accept that fate.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 7:57 a.m.

    We would have loved to come in and compete with USC and Oregon for Pac 12 supremacy from day one. Clearly we can't. However, I'm far from giving up on Whittingham and this team. I think we have a decent shot this weekend. OSU is a good team but I still doubt they are one of the top 10 best in the country.

    Whittingham keeps talking about a process in competing in the Pac 12. I wish it weren't so, but I've still got total confidence in him. After a handful of coaching legends such as Saban, Miles, Spurrier, Stoops, Peterson at Boise, is there really anyone who would be doing a better job than Whittingham? I dare say no.

    Give it a couple more years and we'll be truly fighting USC, Oregon, Stanford for the Pac 12 title and Rose Bowl.

    Until then - staying faithful! Behind Whit 100%!