Democratic gubernatorial candidate Peter Cooke's plan hikes taxes

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  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 17, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    Re: The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    "Then why are folks like you so angry at the laws and programs he has passed and created ...."

    Because the promises Obama made in 2008 have turned out to be hollow. What the Republicans understand is that the economic answers are with private enterprise and not with the bungling politicians in Washington that couldn't balance a checkbook to save their lives.

  • collegegirl Draper, UT
    Oct. 17, 2012 11:03 a.m.

    Governor Herbert has told us that his number one budget priority has always been education and he puts his money where his mouth is. That is why $2 out of every $3 of our state budget goes directly to education and as well as an additional $200 million this year.

    I understand Ellen's point. What is Cooke's secret plan? How can he put more money into education without raising taxes? The Governor has stated that his plan is to grow the economy and that will produce more revenue to the state and subsequently put more money toward education. Think about it, if more people are working, more people are paying income taxes, then 2 out of every 3 dollars of that income tax with go toward the public education. Simple.

    Utah is unique. We have the youngest population in the country. I appreciate the Governor's approach of avoiding tax increases and developing an efficient system to benefit our students. Utah students are succeeding as well with increasing graduation rates and AP test scores. Simply throwing more money into the system is not always the best solution, especially at the cost of the taxpayer.

  • On the other hand Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 10:55 p.m.

    At least Peter Cooke has a plan. Gov. Herbert's plan since he took office seems to be:

    1. wait and see what brings in bad publicity
    2. if the bad publicity doesn't go away, apologize for whatever is causing it and call for it to be changed
    3. get away with everything that slipped under the radar

    Remember the I-15 Core payout? Denise Graham? The death of GRAMA? The overzealous GOP sex-ed bill? Herbert will reluctantly see to it that the right thing is done, but only if and when his constituents complain loudly enough. That's not moral fortitude; that's milquetoastitude.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 4:23 p.m.

    Makid, old man, Roland, Maverik,
    What IS Cooke's plan? He says he will reveal it within 120 days of taking office.

    Obfuscating by talking about Romney or Love does not change the fact Cooke has given no details.

    You seem fine with BO, who gave no details about anything in 2008 and lied when he said legislation would be posted on the web before being voted on so we could see the details. Why is it OK for Cooke and BO to short on detail or outright lie as BO has done so much but BAAAADDDD!!!!!! that romney and love have not given you more details to twist and contort and lie about?

    I cannot answer for Rifleman, but if I were to do so, "OK, zero POSITIVE results"

  • Wanda B. Rich Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:47 a.m.

    What Roland and Rifleman agree on, I surmise, is that Cooke is a politician. Wow, imagine that.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:38 a.m.

    "Or maybe Cooke has been studying Obama's last 4 years. Lots of promises, zero results."

    Then why are folks like you so angry at the laws and programs he has passed and created, claim that he's driving us into socialism, and complain about the debts if they were already in place by the previous administration (since you claim that Obama hasn't done anything)?

    You can't have it both ways.

    repubs can't complain about Obama not doing anything and then complain about it when he does.

    Which is funny, Mitt claims that he'll create jobs while at the same claiming that government cannot create jobs.

    Hilarious how the puppets talk out of both sides of their mouths.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    Re: Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    "Maybe Cooke has been studying Romney's campaign, lots of promises, zero details."

    Or maybe Cooke has been studying Obama's last 4 years. Lots of promises, zero results.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:25 a.m.

    Ellen, I do hope that you hold Bro. Romney and Sis. Love to your same standard.

    I encourage you all to visit Sis. Love's website and tell me that it isn't the most vague campaign website they've ever seen. Have you visited it Ellen? Please do.

    Click "issues" and you'll see absolutely NO details for any plans... In fact, you don't even see plans! You merely see 3 super vague talking points, "Fiscal responsibility, personal accountability, and limited government."

    That's all! Can you believe that Ellen?

    As for Bro. Romney, I see a lot of promises, no details whatsoever. Like his $5 trillion dollar tax cut that won't favor the rich or raise our deficit? Do you know how he will do that Ellen?

    So while your demand that details be made is noble I do hope that you apply them consistently. Otherwise, you're just playing political games. Playing political games is the last thing we need right now Ellen.

  • Ford DeTreese Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    Well, duh. What we haven't yet figured out as Americans or Utahns is that you get what you pay for. If we really want all the services from government that we apparently do want, and a decent education system to boot, well, guess what, folks? We are going to have to pay for it. No more of this GOP nonsense that we can have it all without taxing. And don't give me that nonsense about Republicans wanting to cut a trillion dollars out of the budget. They know they will never do it. They need to finally toss Grover Norquist under the bus and agree to raise taxes at least to historic levels, which probably will be insufficient, given the hole the Bush tax cuts, two unfunded wars, and the Great Recession have left us in. All you need is second-grade math to figure out this story problem.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 7:30 a.m.

    Maybe Cooke has been studying Romney's campaign, lots of promises, zero details.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 7:04 a.m.

    This letter would be a lot more credible if the writer would let us know exactly which services she is willing to forgo in the name of low taxes.

  • Makid Kearns, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 7:00 a.m.

    Why does it have to be a tax hike? Why can't it be a closing of loopholes?

    1. Maybe the plan is to only allow 2 children to qualify for the state child tax deduction.

    2. How about reducing the state deductions on any other various item?

    3. Maybe the plan is to increase the excise tax on oil and natural gas to equal levels in surrounding states?

    My thoughts are it could be a combination of the 3. #3 would bring in approximately $1.5 Billion a year right there. Reducing deductions and the child tax credit easily would cover the remaining cost. This would affect those with multiple houses and those with many children. Yet the costs to those parents can be off set with a reduction to the total credit amount rather than stopping the deduction at 2 children.

    Even if only #3 happens above, we would jump from 50th to 35th in education spending. This can reduce class sizes, lower tuition rates at post secondary institutions and provide a better education to the children of Utah.