The power of one

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  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 11:19 a.m.

    >Lost in DC
    Have you not followed this thread at all? President Obama's budget never got out of committee due to Republican filibuster threats. The bill that got zero votes was Jeff Sessions election year stunt, which he called 'President Obama's budget.' I cited my source, the facts are not in dispute. This talking point is dead; stop poking it with a stick.

  • Christian 24-7 Murray, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 8:17 p.m.

    That's right. President promised to not only fix the economy, but heal the whole earth, and when he turns out to be a failure on pretty much everything, blame Rush. Brilliant!

    I would love to see the citations for the real and fake BO budgets. The votes of Congress are available online. Where can the budgets be found?

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 4:52 p.m.

    Let’s not forget BO’s open mike comment to the Russians that after the election he will have greater flexibility – that is, he will not be answerable to anybody.

    When BO’s budget was voted on in the senate, it got no votes.

    Actually Romney has proposed a 20% tax cut for the middle class.

    “Repeating ad naseum the talking points developed by a group of hacks sitting in a room somewhere” Please help me out, are you talking about the BO campaign or the pro-BO superpacs?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 3:49 p.m.

    Pretty sure this letter was written by Herman Cain since "The power of one" is the name of the song his Pokemon movie quote was from.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 3:48 p.m.

    So Eric sighted sources for his comments care to sight any sources to support any of your false claims or should we just file your comment where we filed the letter?

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 2:54 p.m.

    " . . . has declared non-wars that assisted in the overthrowing of several governments . . . "

    Where do you get this stuff? What is a "declared non-war"? And what "several" governments, specifically, did the United States actively assist to overthrow? Libya? Certainly not Egypt or Tunisia. And there are no other governments one can think of that went through a change of government unless it includes those which had a democratic election and therefore changed government by a "non-war" process.

    Would you rather have a "declared war" with young men and women fighting to overthrow whomever you don't like? Do you want to invade Syria? What about Iran?

  • Mad Hatter Provo, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 2:43 p.m.

    Sometimes the aim is to spread a torrent of nonsense so that the other side will just roll over out of sheer exhaustion. It's not a question of dealing with facts. You just let loose the wheelbarrow and dump the manure in the middle of the discussion.

    Repeating ad naseum the talking points developed by a group of hacks sitting in a room somewhere coming up with this malarkey tells us alot about politics today. Having to refute the claims all the time, restating facts where necessary, oftentimes where such thinking is prevalent, is like swimming against a tide of irrationality.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 2:42 p.m.

    Star Bright
    Pasteing rush limbaughs thoughts doesn't make it any more factual.
    Bet you can't wait to copy and paste those half truths and opinions as facts when mitwit is in the spotlight.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 2:34 p.m.

    >Star Bright
    The writer is not correct, nor are you. I gave my source: the facts are not in dispute. The Obama budget has not been voted on. The phony "Obama budget" ginned up by Jeff Sessions as an election year stunt was the thing that got no support.
    While we're at it, I did not 'wait for a pro-Romney letter' to pounce. Mr. Woodruff's DN letter consisted of nine sentences, eight of which attacked President Obama. Only one sentence supported Governor Romney (a man I respect and admire, and could see voting for if his economic proposals were even remotely plausible). I was defending the President of the United States against false and malicious charges. Seemed like the patriotic thing to do.
    As to your charges against President Obama, I would add that Presidents have very little to do with gas and oil prices, which are fungible international commodities, that the President's energy policies will reduce our reliance on foreign oil, and that Chevrolet has manufactured approximately 30,000 Volts, all in the US, 24,000 of which have been sold in America. But why confuse a good rant with facts?

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 1:54 p.m.

    Kyle Woodruff claims "Mitt Romney got the Olympics out of debt"

    Mitt Romney says "No matter how well we did cutting costs and raising revenue, we couldn't have Games without the support of the federal government."

  • Star Bright Salt Lake City, Ut
    Oct. 15, 2012 12:55 p.m.

    Ah Eric, you must just wait for any positive letter about Romney to pounce!

    The writer was correct! Obama's budget did not get one dem or repub vote! You know all you have to do is look it up. Even that dem lover harry reid didn't vote for it. Wow!
    Let's go over a few successes of obama!
    Sky rocketing energy prices, which he said would happen!
    More dependent on foreign oil which will make us less safe!
    Fast & furious! Boy that investigation might just take a few more years. 300 Mexicans killed.
    Sucking up to the ME & believing that they love us & not wanting to hurt their feelings so we leave a consulate unprotected.
    Sending people out to lie about the video.
    Not facing Amer people, but going on the view, letterman, nickolodean.
    Hardest ?'s he got were from Telemundo!
    Lousy debate! Man is that the leader of the free world? Don't think so.
    BTW, 70% of chevy volts are manufactured in China!
    Obama has stock in green co outsourced to China!

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 11:26 a.m.

    this would really read as quite convincing argument against reelecting the president if any of it where actually true. The only fact in the whole letter is that the gap between the rich and the poor has grown the rest of it pure lies. Nice to see the DN has no issue with allowing people to bare false witness though.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 10:10 a.m.

    William Gronberg>
    >"Not one member of Congress has supported his proposed budgets." Is the above statement >factually accurate?
    Exactly right, Mr. Gronberg. Very well done indeed. Yes, that does sound strange, doesn't it? It would be historically unprecedented. And in fact, it's utter nonsense.
    Senator Jeff Sessions, R-Ala, got his staff to throw together some fifty page piece of nonsense, called it "President Obama's budget", and got a floor vote on it. It was an election year stunt, nothing more, nothing less. Rick Mulvaney, R-SC pulled off similar nonsense in the House. And it was those two phony 'budgets' that were unanimously voted down. Jake Tapper of ABC News has the story: just Google "unanimous vote against Obama budget".
    We might wonder why, given the challenges our country faces, Republicans in Congress would waste everyone's time with this sort of stupidity. But let's be clear: President Obama has a very detailed budget proposal that Republicans refuse to even allow out of committee. Instead, they play silly games.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 10:09 a.m.

    "The gap between the middle and upper class has expanded, and the lower class has expanded."

    And Romney plans to solve this by giving more tax breaks to the rich?


  • Wanda B. Rich Provo, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 9:52 a.m.

    "The gap between the middle and upper class has expanded, and the lower class has expanded."

    This is Obama's fault? And Romney will fix this? LOL.

    The DNews must be a little low on letters.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 9:16 a.m.

    Wow... Just... Wwwooooowwww...

    Just because you can quote some Star Wars line doesn't mean that you have any credibility or that your letter is any less false.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 8:01 a.m.

    Remember that so-called "liberals" are really conservative people who refuse to allow anyone to fool them.

    Mr. Woodruff has been fooled completely.

  • William Gronberg Payson, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 6:59 a.m.

    Mr. Woodruff makes the following claim as fact. The "his" is president Obama.

    "Not one member of Congress has supported his proposed budgets."

    Is the above statement factually accurate?


    Is the above statement an opinion of Mr. Woodruff that is not factually accurate?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 15, 2012 6:32 a.m.

    "He has set in place policies to allow swift nationalization of all of the water and transportation resources in the country"

    Quite the inflammatory statement Kyle. Care to back it up with any credible facts? OK, how about just ONE fact. (let me guess. You referring to Executive order 12919? Too funny.)

    Some of you on the far right must spend hours and hours fretting over all of the delusional and false premisses that you forward on to each other. How about spending 5 minutes researching some of the outlandish claims that you are so concerned about.

    You just may find out that they are completely FALSE and save yourself the embarrassment of forwarding erroneous information to you entire contact list.

    I truly believe that you would rather be outraged by lies than comforted with the truth.