Frank Pignanelli & LaVarr Webb: Are the media and pollsters biased against Romney?

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  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 6:10 p.m.

    I love how Romney supporters think that Positive Mental Attitude will somehow, magically win him the White House. If they keep saying "Romney will win" enough times, it has GOT to come true!

    And anyone who does not get on the upbeat, positive Romney bandwagon is accused of having "a liberal bias against Romney".


    Good luck with that.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 16, 2012 10:37 a.m.

    "Obama gets almost all softball questions. . ."

    WestGranger, you care to point out to us what tough interview Mitt Romney has done?

    What is it with your guys preoccupation with a socalled liberal media? You do realize, don't you, that Limbaugh, the most listened to radio pundit in the country is part of the media? You realize that Hannity is the second highest rated radio pundit. You realize that FOX News has the highest ratings in cable news, and that they are part of the media? You realize that the second highest circulation paper (after us today) is the Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal? You do realize, don't you, that the paper you are commenting in right here is a conservative paper? You realize that the vast majority of news papers are owned by large conglomerates that tend to have conservative ownership? Such as the "liberal" SLC Tribune that endorsed George W Bush for president at the demand of its owner.

    No, maybe you didn't know this.

  • WestGranger West Valley City, Utah
    Oct. 16, 2012 2:42 a.m.

    If the incumbent president where a republican the over the last year we would have heard a incessant barrage of stories of how bad the economy is and how the economy and high gas prices are hurting Americans. There is a selective perception of the world by the mainstream media that has a strong tie and alliance to a pro-Obama spin. It is not a conspiracy theory but more of a "group think" mentality that links the story. Wait... on second thought they did catch the mainstream media conspiring together on how to get Romney before a news conference. Obama gets almost all softball questions, except from Univision's reporter Jorge Ramos.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 7:43 p.m.

    "Are the media and pollsters biased against Romney?"


    Is water wet? :o)

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 6:15 p.m.

    The media collectively preferred Obama greatly but some are now deserting a sinking ship.

    The media greatly preferred Romney to Ron Paul, and so, of course, did many of the local Republican parties. Now they want the Paul supporters to support Romney but, as far as I have heard, are not willing to give them anything they want.

  • mark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 3:14 p.m.

    You guys realize, don't you, that business people are not in the business of creating jobs, right? You realize that the rich are not "job creators", right?

    A CEO, a business owner, has, and should have, only one goal, and that is to make a profit.
    And I'm just fine with that. I would never, nor would most investors, invest in a company whose stated goal is the creation of jobs. Any business with the sole intent of creating jobs will fail. Business adjusts labor to match demand. More demand more jobs, less demand less jobs.

    I guarentee you that if a business has more demand then they can meet they will increase the number of employees. And if they can't someone else will.

    Business people are not the defeatist that many of you believe they are. They will not stamp their feet and go out of business just because their taxes are raised or because there is a bit of regulation on them. And if they do, someone else will be more then happy to step in and take their place.

    Ayn Rand did not understand this, and most conservatives don't.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 11:33 a.m.

    Media? Pollsters?

    Whatever --

    Here's the only "poll" that matters:

    Obama = 294
    Romney = 244

    270 is needed to win

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 10:53 a.m.

    @lost in DC
    "Even BO said if he didn't have it turned around in three years, his was a one-term proposition."

    We've gained private sector jobs 31+ months in a row and counting, that's called turned around. Have we moved as far forward as we'd like? No. Maybe Republicans should stop filibustering jobs bills and get to work on something other than abortion.

    @J Thompson
    "Signing Obamacare stopped growth immediately. "

    Electing a Republican house slowed growth as they set about blocking anything and everything.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 10:50 a.m.

    @Mike Richards
    "Obama has failed to create jobs."

    Could've sworn you just said 114,000 jobs were created last month which is something like the 31st straight month of private sector job growth.

    "Obama's platform of dividing this nation has also divided Congress to the point that the chief Democrat in the Senate systematically rejects legislation from the House."

    Nevermind that the House ignores everything from the senate if it can even get through the record breaking numbers of GOP senate filibusters.

    "Rasmussen wins the honor of being the most accurate"

    It was least accurate of all major polling firms in 2010. Nate Silver has calculated that Rasmussen has done better this past year though and only has a 1.3 point Republican bias. Incidentally, Gallup has a 2 point republican bias and ABC has a... I want to say 2 point but I forget, Democratic bias.

    Gallup shows Romney up 2 (0 when bias corrected). Rasmussen shows a 1 point Romney lead (it was 2 yesterday, 0 when bias corrected). ABC shows a 3 point Obama lead (1 point Obama lead when bias corrected). Basically, this race is tied.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Oct. 15, 2012 9:26 a.m.

    J Thompson,

    The "rich guy" happens to be paying a lower percentage in taxes than he has in 80 years. The nonrich are simply unable to bear their share of the burden and are sinking fast. How about if your "rich guy" hires a few people and pays them decent wages. Then maybe they can afford to help out with the tax burden. I love how conservative stick up for the rich guy, like he's somehow gotten the bad end of the deal for the past 30 years. Please.

  • J Thompson SPRINGVILLE, UT
    Oct. 14, 2012 3:36 p.m.

    Mr. DeForest,

    Obama has actively killed jobs in America. Signing Obamacare stopped growth immediately. Ask a few businessmen. Many have stopped hiring until they know exactly how their business will be affected. He stopped the pipeline, which cost 10,000 jobs. He stopped almost all oil drilling in Utah, Wyoming and Colorado (notwithstanding his lies about increasing oil production - that was done on private lands where he had no authority to stop them).

    Obama has actively tried to seize the money that is needed to create businesses and jobs. In every speech he tells us that the "rich guy" is not doing his part - ignoring the fact that the "rich guy" pays 80% or more of all taxes already.

    The President has no Constitutional authority to redistribute wealth, but that is exactly what he has done. That kills jobs. Ask any businessman.

    A leader inspires people to have the faith to take a chance. Review Obama's speeches since he took office - nothing but doom and gloom. He does not inspire. He sows fear.

    Yes, the polls are biased against Romney as is the media - even as Obama fiddles while America flounders.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 14, 2012 3:15 p.m.

    making excuses for BO's failures? Is that so you can justify in your own mind voting for the abysmal failure again?

    BO's policies have done fine?

    $6 trillion in new debt in 4 years is fine? $4 trillion in 8 years by bush was irresponsible, but BO is FINE?

    an average unemployment rate in excess of 9% is fine?

    Unemployment still HIGHER at 7.8% than when he took over is fine?

    Welcome to the new normal - actually it's always been this way, finding excuses for the abysmal democratic failure.

    "given the deep hole" still blaming bush? Even BO said if he didn't have it turned around in three years, his was a one-term proposition.

    It was NOT turned around in three years, and you will NOT hold him to his word. I guess he flip-flopped there, just like he did on GITMO, gay marriage, reducing health care costs, and a million over things.

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Oct. 14, 2012 1:27 p.m.

    Webb: "In general, conservative candidates do get rougher treatment than liberal candidates in the major national newspapers and broadcast outlets."

    Spoken like a true conservative. Could it be that conservative candidates get this purported rougher treatment because they offer no new ideas that are realistic? Romney offers no specifics. And many of his statements are flat-out lies. Why not hold him accountable for this

    Mike Richards: "Obama has failed to create jobs."

    Even though it is not the president's job to "create" jobs, (yes, Mike, it's not in the Constitution, and if it's not in the Constitution, well, you finish the sentence) Obama's economic policies have done fine given the deep hole we have had to dig ourselves out of. The problem is with the system we've created. It is becoming ever more burdened with the growth imperative that drives it. The bubbles are getting bigger, and when they burst, we find ourselves in deeper trouble. There are solutions, but neither party seems able to comprehend anything beyond short-term fixes, most of which won't really fix anything.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 14, 2012 12:04 p.m.

    The attacks on Romney go on - endlessly. Why aren't Obamba's supporters praising Obama? Why aren't they telling us of all the wonderful things he did since being elected? Why aren't they shouting for joy that 114,000 people got a job last month, leaving only 23,000,000 unemployed?

    Romney is a businessman. Obama is not. It shows. Obama has failed to create jobs. He has failed to even present a budget that got a single vote in the Senate. Romney was a Republican Governor in a Democrat State. He worked with the Democrats and passed significant legislation.

    Obama's platform of dividing this nation has also divided Congress to the point that the chief Democrat in the Senate systematically rejects legislation from the House.

    Some of the polls are accurate. Some of them poll registered voters. Some of them ask non-leading questions. Some of them have a track record showing that they knew how to poll people. Rasmussen wins the honor of being the most accurate, based on actual projections and actual votes. Today, Romney leads Obama by 2 points in the Rasmussen polls.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Oct. 14, 2012 11:46 a.m.

    No, they aren't biased against Romney. If anything, they've given him too much of a free ride. They haven't investigated enough and reported enough about him (especially concerning his hiding his tax returns and about his flip-flopping). He's been getting off easy.

  • UTAH Bill Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 14, 2012 10:15 a.m.

    It says something that charges of bias are raised when Romney is down but seem to disappear when he's up. It just seems to be an easy and convenient excuse. Having said that, I think the vast majority of people know bias when they see it. They know which media lean Left or Right and choose which ones they primarily follow.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Oct. 14, 2012 8:51 a.m.

    Should Mitt Romney have been able to "connect" to middle class Americans, the media, voters, and world leaders, all mentioned may have had a different, and possibly, favorable take on the former governor of Massachusetts.
    According to many polls, it appears now, to be too little, too late, for Mr. Romney.
    Voters and the world have determined that they are unable to deal with Mitt's very frequent changes on important issues, as well as his disconnect.