Vice President Joe Biden to play 'hardball' with Paul Ryan in VP debate

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  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 6:26 p.m.

    By the way, moderator Martha Raddatz went to East High. She graduated in 1971, I think.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 6:25 p.m.

    Biden's job is to discredit Ryan, his plans and his numbers. Ryan is on tape standing up to Obama himself in front of Committee, so Biden should be no problem.
    Like Romney, Ryan will keep insisting his numbers are right in a cordial way. The morning after fact-checkers are really just spinning for their own party. No one believes them any more. You win or lose in real time.
    The incumbent has no defense of his own numbers because his plan isn't working. People listen to Obama/Biden being critical of Romney/Ryan ideas and think to themselves, "He's got no room to talk. We don't have a budget and are headed for the fiscal cliff."
    Biden can get emotional and misspeak when anyone challenges him, like the incident with the manager of Kopp's restaurant in Wisconsin. Expect Ryan to challenge him to see if he can push some buttons.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 5:36 p.m.

    Mr. Biden has embarrassed the president along with the rest us. He appeals to the old style populist campaigner; hyperbole, name calling, fist pounding and little substance. Populists are the Know Nothing Party and in Mr Biden's case, the description fits. He could be from Tammany Hall without any change.

  • JoeCapitalist2 Orem, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 2:51 p.m.

    I just hope neither candidate resorts to the typical tactics of trying to define their opponent using a strawman portrayal of them.

    Let each candidate state his position and let the voters decide. After stating that position, I think it is fair game for the other guy to be able to offer a rebuttal of something along the lines of "he says he wants to do X, but I think that will have the unintended consequence of Y".

    But it is very tiring when the first words out of a candidates mouth is something like "my opponent wants to throw granny off the cliff" or "he is a socialist who will steal all your money". Such scare tactics don't work on me, but too many people fall for it.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 2:39 p.m.

    Joe actually was one of the best debaters in the Democratic primaries in 08 and Ryan has a tendency to look wonky (one of the problems Obama runs into). Now I'm not saying Joe will definitely win but... let's just say you conservatives probably shouldn't count chickens too early. A lot of Democrats learned that lesson the hard way last week.

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 2:17 p.m.

    Joe's gonna play hardball? Oh No! The horror! We're doomed, doomed I tell you....

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 1:13 p.m.

    Joe just needs to mind his use of the "Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television" and he'll do just fine.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Oct. 10, 2012 11:21 a.m.

    I won't predict a winner but I do predict we'll hear a more substantive debate than we'll get this year from the guys at the top of the tickets.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 10, 2012 11:18 a.m.

    The congressional hearings on the deadly Sept. 11 attack on the US Consulate in Libya are coming at a terrible time for Obama, and more importantly for Joe Biden. Ryan will certainly point out Hillary Clinton's attempt to deny initial White House claims that an anti-Muslim video was responsible for the death and destruction in that attack.

    Forget the pop corn, I'm going to order pizza while I watch.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 11:11 a.m.

    biden will win hardball if he uses his hard head, but ryan will trounce him with facts and sense, neither of which biden knows.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 10, 2012 10:23 a.m.

    Joe Biden's main claim to fame is that he has admitted that he committed plagiarism that should have gotten him thrown out of school. After Obama got his tail kicked in the first presidential debate there is no question that Biden must come out swinging. The question is whether Ryan will just stand there, stare at the floor, and take it. Doubtful, highly doubtful.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 10:19 a.m.

    Let Joe be Joe and he'll do fine.