Lessons learned from law and faith and this presidential election

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  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 9:00 p.m.

    @Mike Richards -- You supported every president before Obama? Even Clinton?? Really? You'd be the first far right person I know who did. Back then Clinton was Satan's spawn. Basically any Democrat who is elected President is deemed to be for sure the anti-Christ. The hyperbole of the right is amazing to behold.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 4, 2012 5:45 p.m.


    Let me guess. You consider yourself a "patriot"?

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Oct. 4, 2012 3:53 p.m.

    Mike Richards,
    Dude, seriously. I said Obama is an honorable and decent man, and THAT sets you off?
    You have policy differences with Obama. Period. End of story. Even your rant about him came down to absolutely nothing more than a disagreement over policy.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 3, 2012 5:54 p.m.


    You are cheering for a team that I will not join. I will not support Obama. You may not think that seizing G.M. was wrong, especially when the unions and a foreign government profited at the expense of bond holders who got nothing - in direct violation of the 5th Amendment that requires government to PAY for the things that it takes from private citizens. Obama has sold us down the river.

    He is not a coach. He's not even on the team. He has made himself a king, at least in his own eyes. He dictates and we're supposed to follow. Not on your life! Wars were fought to BUY our freedom from people like Obama who thinks he has the right to rule by dictate.

    I have supported every leader in America until Obama. I will not support him. He has proven that he despises everything that I hold dear. He has even dictated to organizations of religion that they WILL offer birth control and that they WILL pay for abortions. Can't he read? Doesn't the 1st Amendment mean anything to him?

    Do as the writer recommended. Find the facts.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Oct. 3, 2012 4:23 p.m.

    Mike --

    I read today that JetBlue is giving away flights to those who's candidate looses the elcetion.
    Since so many or you of the uber-right feel that America is going down the toilet,
    maybe you could book a flight?

    I look at elections as a time to pick a new coach.
    After the election, we are still ALL on the same team.

    Trying to teardown the "other side" is Social and Civil Suicide.

    In the End,
    WE are all in this together.

    Put aside your axe to grind, sour grapes, what have you and row with the rest of us.

    [Lord only knows I had to under that Tyrant GWBush for 8 years as he torch America and played his fiddle watching it burn]

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    Oct. 3, 2012 3:50 p.m.


    "Honorable" must mean something different to you than it means to me. To me, an honorable man does not accept a position, whether that position is in employment, religion or government, when his intention is to NOT fulfill the duties of that office. Mr. Obama swore an oath before God and his countrymen stating that he would uphold and defend the Constitution.

    ("I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.")

    Has he done that?

    No, he has not.

    He has instructed his administration to NOT respond to any calls for help from Arizona in protecting the borders of the United States. He has instructed his administration to NOT uphold or defend DOMA. He has instructed his administration to NOT prosecute illegal aliens. He has instructed his administration to pay $49 BILLION from the public treasury to unions and to foreign governments to "buy" G.M. without paying the bond holders who had first claim on any funds.

    Look at his performance and count the violations. That is not honorable.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Oct. 3, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    I am very grateful to Professor Smith for these wise words. As I have said repeatedly, on my blog and in other forums, this election is between two honorable and decent men who happen to disagree on policy.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 3, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    Sorry. Monday is for watching football and drinking beer with the guys.