Re: Claudio Springville, Ut"By your logic, Iran should be allowed to
develop the atomic bomb as well,..."Adolf Hitler came up with
the Final Solution that resulted in the murders of more than 5 million Jews and
Israel has no intention of allowing Iran to carry out it's threat to do the
same.Is your comment an attempt to deflect the comment away from
Operation Fast and Furious that resulted in the arming of Mexican drug dealers
and the murder of a least one US Border Patrol agent?
Rifleman,By your logic, Iran should be allowed to develop the atomic
bomb as well, since they're doing it themselves. Now, you can't come
back at me and say they're using consultants from Pakistan and N. Korea and
therefore it's different, because we allowed German Jewish refugees to come
and do the same for us. So which is it?
Re: Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT"We gave Israel the "Atom
Bomb" Not Iran."No, the United States did not give Israel
the atom bomb. They developed it on their own.That, however is not the
issue at hand. What the Obama Administration did do is arm Mexican drug
dealers. Do you feel better about that? I know I don't.
Re: I M LDS 2 Provo, UT"Meanwhile, how amazing that conservatives seem
so eager to turn death and personal tragedy into a political football!"If it had been a Republican administration that had armed Mexican drug
dealers who then killed American Border Patrol Agents am I to assume that you
would have defended their poorly thought out plan.Meantime everybody
involved with Operation Fast and Furious is hiding under their tables until this
thing blows over.
Mr. Ivie is a true American hero to me. He was dedicated to protecting us from
the criminal invasion from the south. I only wish our politicians weren't
so corrupt that they allow this situation to continue instead of building a
My condolences to the family and friends of this brave officer.Meanwhile, how amazing that conservatives seem so eager to turn death and
personal tragedy into a political football!Where do you get that
@Happy Valley Heretic: Israel is our ally as of now. I am quite surprised
about that because of the way Obama has been treating her. Nevertheless, Israel
is the only ally we have in the Middle East. I would much rather trust them
with the "bomb" than any one of those countries we have to pay off to be
our friend. You know who I mean: The ones who, at a drop of a hat will start
hating the US, burning our flag, destroying our embassies and killing our
ambassadors. Yes, Israel having the bomb sets much better with me than those
killers having guns.
TRUTH said:@Happy Valley HereticYou failed to mention the fact that
Obama gave the guns to the killers.Nope didn't FAIL,
that's NOT a FACT, but the "truth" eludes most of your posts.We gave Israel the "Atom Bomb" Not Iran. Do you feel better
about that? I know I don't.
@Happy Valley Heretic You failed to mention the fact that Obama gave the
guns to the killers.....wouldn't be surprised if next he gives Iran an atom
"the first fatal shooting of an agent since a deadly 2010 firefight."I send my condolences to the family.The rest of your comments are so far
off base it's laughable, one shooting in 2 years, this has got to be one of
the safest patrol jobs in the nation. 35 Police officers were killed in
gunfights in America so far this year, 90 officers killed total.There is a
problem, but it is not the epidemic these other posters suggest to try and put
the blame Obama for well anything anymore. pathetic
...while the Dept. of Justice sues Arizona for trying to achieve immigration
control. It's time for Eric Holder to go on patrol.
And Obama is allowing these criminals to flood our country unchallenged? The
liberals would say it is the Christian thing to do.
Down here in AZ, the local news (channel 12) said he was from Sierra Vista and
was a volunteer minister.Translated, this means he was LDS and was serving
as a 2nd Counselor in the Sierra Vista 2nd Ward.
Remember folks, democrats value human life. Unless you are a US ambassador,
military (2002 deaths in Afghanistan), border patrol, Mexican teenagers at a
party, unborn children, or collateral damage from a drone strike.But
they are very compassionate. Look how they give rights to terrorists and set
them free to kill again, or try and give a jury trial in a US court, or give our
money to the muslim brotherhood etc. That's compassion.Yet the
only thing they can tell us is that it could be worse. Really? What is the
democrat threshold of worse? I think things are already worse and would rather
see improvement than to know that things could be worse.
Fast and Furious is no different than Obama himself shooting and killing our
border agents.....Obama now has two border agents and an ambassador's blood
on his hands....
This Border Patrol agent need not have died!This callous killing and
disregard of our national security must stop!We pretend that we have
a border and that no one is supposed to cross it except at authorized points.
However, everyone on both sides of the border knows that the border is a line on
the map, sometimes marked by a fence, sometimes by a wall, but that the Obama
administration will not use force to stop incursions across the border.In the last year, the border has been illegally crossed by harmless economic
migrant job seekers, by criminals seeking wealthier victims, by drug dealers and
coyotes, and even by heavily armed groups that are drug cartel gangs or even
Mexican military units. Quite likely Islamic terrorists have also come across
our unguarded southern border as well.It is long past time to
enforce our border as an actual border to be heeded, with deadly consequences if
ANYONE crosses it illegally, in either direction. The bad guys have
already turned our border areas into a kill zone, so why are we unwilling to use
whatever force is necessary to uphold the rule of law?
I am so sorry for the Ivie family, that surname really rings a bell. Our
country is at risk if we do not protect our borders and it is not fair that
there are so few to be there to protect us. But their service is greatly
Re: "Border Patrol agent . . . shot, killed . . . ."The
entirely foreseeable and inevitable result of the Obama regime's illegal
open borders policy.How many more horrific incidents will be enough
for cynical, vote-buying Democrats?
When is the federal government going to wake up and realize there are armed
criminals and terrorists operating freely along both sides of our southern
border? It is long overdue for the government to permanently deploy the national
guard along our nations southern border. One of Ronald Reagan's most
profound quotes is "a nation without borders is not a nation".