Israel and Iran

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  • Pippin Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 3, 2012 6:49 a.m.


    What Israel has in regard to confronting Iran's nuclear development goes beyond "every right". Israel has every OBLIGATION to draw a line. Iran has been the number one sponsor of terrorism in the world for thirty years. Their goal is total domination of the world and subjugating every human being to Islam. Their methods are terror and blood. There is no room for freedom and liberty in their ideology.

    Those commenters here who put Iran's ideology on par with Israel's make a terrible error, the full results of which I hope they never experience.

    A proper government is not obligated to fight evil wherever it lurks. But a proper government is obligated to defend itself with all the might it can muster when it has the means. Israel has the means.

    I might add that Iran's terrorist activities have shed the blood of Americans as often as anyone else... and they mean to continue. America too is OBLIGATED to eliminate this menace. We too have the means. Now if we can only muster the moral certainty.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Oct. 2, 2012 11:14 a.m.

    @ Tolstoy

    Your welcome! BTW let me be the first to complement you on your pleasantly silly and condescending reference to free speech for all, and your CLAIMED reverence to the value of lives sacrificed for it. Nicely done!

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 7:41 p.m.

    thank you for taking the time to give such a thoughtful response to the comments of others,it is clear you have taken great time to consider other points of view and to giving reasonable and thoughtful responses. What a great use of your free speech that so many have given their lives to protect.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Oct. 1, 2012 5:45 p.m.

    Always pathetic to watch the bleeding heart leftists blather on and on with their admiration for the enemies of Israel. So sad we are stuck with such a lame president who shares these sentiments. I think that soft spot in their hearts for terrorist nations just gets bigger and bigger!

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 5:13 p.m.

    Re: "If Israel is allowed to defend itself, the[n] Iran is allowed to defend itself."

    Israel is not a threat to the existence of any of its neighbors -- but each of its actual neighbors [which Iran is not] threatens Israel's.

    Defense is the very farthest thing from the mind of Iran's Twelver mullahs.

    None of its actual neighbors threatens Iran. Pakistan has no gripe with it. None of the other "stans" or Caucasus states is a credible threat. Iraq is ruled by friends of Iran, and is too weak to be a threat. Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon depend almost entirely on Iran's beneficence for their existence. Turkey's Islamist government shares existential imperatives with Iran. Saudi Arabia, the Gulf States, and the Horn of Africa are threatened BY, but are not a serious threat TO Iran.

    Its deranged leadership is motivated primarily by a desire to create regional, if not world, holocaust, in order to speed the return of the 12th Imam.

    So, Iran's threat to us all is clear.

  • Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 5:07 p.m.

    "In negotiations"? I certainly hope so. That's how civilized nations handle their differences; through diplomacy.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 3:59 p.m.

    So the "saudi regime" represents all middle eastern countries? I would suggest you study a little more what is really going on in the region. Not everyone is so comfortable with Israel having nuclear weapons.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 12:48 p.m.

    Israel has the right to use bugs bunny props to draw a red line on Iran's nuclear aspirations. Just as long as their bravado is their own, because I think we have the right not to get sucked into a land war in Iran.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Oct. 1, 2012 9:47 a.m.

    Bruce, do you really feel that Israel has a "right" to attack another sovereign country based solely on its desire to remain the only nuclear power in the region? Evidently, the answer is "yes", since it's clear you feel the US should have done something to keep the other nations mentioned nuke-free. How many of them should we attack right now before they put us in their sights?

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 9:08 a.m.

    When your enemy has a big club, your best defense is to get yourself a big club. Seems like it worked in the Cold war.

    If Israel starts a war with Iran it will probably trigger an atomic war where everybody dies. For the religious people that will be just fine because they think they are going to heaven. But for us non-religious guys it will just be a premature end of the world.

    Israel is not part of the United States, we should not let Israel take us into a war.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 6:38 a.m.

    Hypocrisy is where you allow Israel to draw a "red line" but you refuse to allow Iran to have a "red line".

    If Israel is allowed to defend itself, the Iran is allowed to defend itself. If a nuclear weapon is what it takes for Iran to protect itself from a nuclear armed Israel, then it is hypocrisy to allow Israel to have nucs and not its neighbors.

    Frankly, if I were ANY of Israel's neighbors, I'd be seeking nuclear arms to defend myself from them.

    You can't allow only one nation to defend itself, it's an all or none proposition. Either all nations have the right to defend themselves or none of us do. Anything less is hypocrisy.

  • Midvaliean MIDVALE, UT
    Oct. 1, 2012 5:47 a.m.

    Don't forget to leave China out of comment. I'm sure you can fit it in somewhere.