Candidates' deficit plans don't add up, critics say

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  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 1, 2012 11:02 a.m.

    DN Subscriber,

    I notice that the subsidy that we are currently paying to big oil was left off your list?

    How about before we give the supposed "job creators" another tax cut we make them actually create jobs to get those tax cuts.

    Also could someone please tell me why we need to spend more in defense? The money isn't going to increase pay for our ridiculously underpaid soldiers, so what is it going for? If we increase defense spending with no tax increase, we have to gut every other program the government runs. I hear conservatives say all the time we don't have a revenue problem we have a spending problem, but then they propose big spending increases in defense. Are the republicans planning to start another war?

    Oct. 1, 2012 10:04 a.m.

    Republicans and Democrats are both a part of the same club. The only party not in bed with Israel and serious about the future is the Libertarian party.

    Your kids will be saddled with debt as you keep electing leaders such as Obama and Romney. But, I'm going to continue listening to pop music and not having kids so it's not like I should be the one to care really.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Sept. 30, 2012 7:16 p.m.

    Out of his OWN MOUTH came the words "We'll balance the budget in 8 to 10 years." That's Romney's mouth, by the way. Can we also presume that's if the GWB tactic of taking wars OFF budget is followed again?

  • David Centerville, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 6:48 p.m.

    We know what we will get with Obama...more debt and more taxes. Deficit spending reductions and debt reductions are not part of his plan, despite the side of his mouth he is speaking out of.

    Romney has experience turning things around. Americans would be wise to turn the presidency over to Romney if they want to make any effort with the national debt.

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 4:33 p.m.


    By his own admission we know Romney is an advocate for a smaller and yet smaller portion of our society. So what business does he have running for president? As long as he can get people like you and me to pay higher tax rates than he can call him your advocate? Did I tell you I had an island in Lake Michigan I would like to sell?

  • peter Alpine, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    Don't forget, the people will change the face of our do-nothing Congress this November, like they did in 2010. The people don't need most of the federal depts/programs to be prosperous and happy. We don't need to be sending our tax dollars to Egypt and other rogue nations. And, America will be energy independent under Romney.

  • Grammy3 SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 7:07 a.m.

    All I know is that this Country needs to be healed. So many many coverups with what is going on in the White House. I do not trust Obama at all. He might be a nice guy and someone who everyone likes but this is not what we need right now. We need someone who we can trust and who will help us get back to where we need to be in a Nation. This thing that is going on over in Libya is so totally wrong. They can not even tell us the truth of what happened over there. The economy is so bad and so many other things that need to be fixed. Obama has his turn over the last four years and he did not help this Country at all. When he had two years with The House and The Senate with more Democrats why didn't he make changes then when he could pass things. So it isn't just that Republicans he wants to blame he had his chance now we need a Change.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Sept. 30, 2012 6:38 a.m.

    Nice list DN, but mostly fun sized candy for the base. Not really any substance. And that is the problem.

    Our financial problems all rest on the backs of SS, Medicare/Medicaid, Defense and Taxes.

    Reform SS -
    cut M/M with reforms
    Cut defense
    Raise taxes to Clinton levels (middle class and all)

    Only a combination of these 4 will work. And only a combination of these 4 has a chance of passing.

    So, you can either push your congressmen to hold the hard line and get NOTHING passed, or they can compromise for the good of the country.

    When that is done, then(if you must) talk about "ethanol subsidies, the NEA and the departments of energy and educations."

  • bandersen Saint George, UT
    Sept. 30, 2012 12:13 a.m.

    For the delusional naive 20 somethings, if you think that Barack Obama has your back covered, good luck moving back in with mom and dad. Politicians with power do what most have always done, promised everything, delivered on nothing, but took care of themselves very well. Socialism, entitlement mentality, and ignorance of the benefits of capitalism, will give you nothing but pain and suffering. Obama is your advocate! At least, perhaps, four more years of Barack will make a mark on Democrats that will allow liberty to reemerge and economic prosperity to begin anew.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 29, 2012 10:37 p.m.

    You have to have the will to actually cut something. Anything. To say "NO!" To tell many special interest groups that their long standing and "essential" programs will no longer be funded at all. Obama won't, Romney probably won't but Paul Ryan may.

    Start here, although we are only talking about millions here and millions there, pretty soon they add up to real money. When the $16 trillion debt is paid off, then you can ask to get them back.

    End the "lifeline" or "Obama phone" program ($76 million in Ohio along for over 1 million free phones.

    Don't send Egypt 1/2 Billion dollars more aid.

    Don't spend federal money on student loans- or guarantees.

    Eliminate the Departments of Education and Energy.

    Zero money for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

    Zero money for the National Endowment for the Arts.

    End the federal presidential campaign funds (which "do not increase your taxes"- so where does the money come from?)

    End the ethanol fuel subsidy.

    Eliminate Congressional pensions (that will term limit people!)

    Eliminate all "refundable" income tax credits (still take the deduction, but you don't get a check for that amount!)

    Let's start.